Polygamy or not - Confused
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
I think you are wrong.
The law in the UK states that British citizens lack the capacity to enter in to polygamous marriages.
If the British citizen had been your first wife, you might have been OK, but I suspect problem you face is that your second marriage is not recognized under UK law and this would not change even if you divorced your first wife because the second marriage was void from the outset under UK law.
The law in the UK states that British citizens lack the capacity to enter in to polygamous marriages.
If the British citizen had been your first wife, you might have been OK, but I suspect problem you face is that your second marriage is not recognized under UK law and this would not change even if you divorced your first wife because the second marriage was void from the outset under UK law.
Even then, might the OP have problems convincing UK immigration that it's a legitimate marriage and not just a fast track into the UK?
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As I recall, when I applied for a spouse visa, we had to list any previous marriages and provide evidence that we were 'free to marry'. As both DH and I had been married before, we had to provide divorce decrees, and of course the marriage certificate was dated AFTER the date of final divorce.
I agree with other posts - UK law is the only thing that matters in these cases.
I agree with other posts - UK law is the only thing that matters in these cases.
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Thank you all once again . Now things are getting more clear
Vadio - Thanks for your comment . I have few questions if cleared and i will understand it correctly . Still its cloudy a bit for me and i apologies for asking
My questions are as below
1-If a husband married two one not from UK and the other from UK and he himself is not UK related but Wife is a UK Citizen . In this case Husband wouldnt get UK citizention this will this effect the Wife as she is UK citizen and UK rules says it too? Am i correct here
2-If i provided Divorce certificate do UK Embassy verify that ? say i married and divorced in a country other then UK
Vadio - Thanks for your comment . I have few questions if cleared and i will understand it correctly . Still its cloudy a bit for me and i apologies for asking
My questions are as below
1-If a husband married two one not from UK and the other from UK and he himself is not UK related but Wife is a UK Citizen . In this case Husband wouldnt get UK citizention this will this effect the Wife as she is UK citizen and UK rules says it too? Am i correct here
2-If i provided Divorce certificate do UK Embassy verify that ? say i married and divorced in a country other then UK
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
and if possible can elaborate a bit on what did you provide as an evidence that you were 'free to marry'
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..... My questions are as below
1-If a husband married two one not from UK and the other from UK and he himself is not UK related but Wife is a UK Citizen . In this case Husband wouldnt get UK citizention this will this effect the Wife as she is UK citizen and UK rules says it too? Am i correct here ....
1-If a husband married two one not from UK and the other from UK and he himself is not UK related but Wife is a UK Citizen . In this case Husband wouldnt get UK citizention this will this effect the Wife as she is UK citizen and UK rules says it too? Am i correct here ....
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
The copies of the divorce decrees, issued by the jurisdictions granting the divorces, and properly notarized as true copies of the paperwork lodged with the applicable county court.
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
Hi Pulaski
Sorry if i cannot make it clear in last post but i will explain it more clear
As Polygamy is not allowed in UK and my wife is from UK i dont want her be effected from the marriage to her as i didnt divorce my first wife . In other words I am married two in a country which allows it but since my wife is married to me as per UK Rules its not allowed
Sorry if i cannot make it clear in last post but i will explain it more clear
As Polygamy is not allowed in UK and my wife is from UK i dont want her be effected from the marriage to her as i didnt divorce my first wife . In other words I am married two in a country which allows it but since my wife is married to me as per UK Rules its not allowed
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
Hi Pulaski
Sorry if i cannot make it clear in last post but i will explain it more clear
As Polygamy is not allowed in UK and my wife is from UK i dont want her be effected from the marriage to her as i didnt divorce my first wife . In other words I am married two in a country which allows it but since my wife is married to me as per UK Rules its not allowed
Sorry if i cannot make it clear in last post but i will explain it more clear
As Polygamy is not allowed in UK and my wife is from UK i dont want her be effected from the marriage to her as i didnt divorce my first wife . In other words I am married two in a country which allows it but since my wife is married to me as per UK Rules its not allowed
At that point, you (& she) will need to provide evidence* that you (both) were free to marry when you did, according to the law.
*Yes, UK immigration authorities can & will check the documentation you provide.
Having said all that, I think you should consult an immigration lawyer (one versed in UK law), sooner rather than later. Your questions/situation are WAY beyond the scope of this forum.
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
Hi Pulaski
Sorry if i cannot make it clear in last post but i will explain it more clear
As Polygamy is not allowed in UK and my wife is from UK i dont want her be effected from the marriage to her as i didnt divorce my first wife . In other words I am married two in a country which allows it but since my wife is married to me as per UK Rules its not allowed
Sorry if i cannot make it clear in last post but i will explain it more clear
As Polygamy is not allowed in UK and my wife is from UK i dont want her be effected from the marriage to her as i didnt divorce my first wife . In other words I am married two in a country which allows it but since my wife is married to me as per UK Rules its not allowed
It would appear to be fairly clear that UK immigration will NOT recognise your marriage to your second wife. As far as they are concerned, legally your British wife remains unmarried, since the marriage that she entered into was a polygamous one. If she had been your first wife it would presumably be a different story.
I may be missing some nuance here, but it would seem straightforward:
1) UK law does not recognise polygamous marriages
2) You were already married when you married your UK citizen wife
3) She is therefore not in a legal marriage according to UK law
4) Since she is not legally married to you, she can't sponsor you for a visa
I don't think she would be in any trouble, as such - the marriage is simply not recognised.
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"Polygamous marriages legally performed in another country where the law allows it are legally recognised for the purposes of welfare benefits, but not for pension, immigration or citizenship purposes."
It would appear to be fairly clear that UK immigration will NOT recognise your marriage to your second wife. As far as they are concerned, legally your British wife remains unmarried, since the marriage that she entered into was a polygamous one. If she had been your first wife it would presumably be a different story.
I may be missing some nuance here, but it would seem straightforward:
1) UK law does not recognise polygamous marriages
2) You were already married when you married your UK citizen wife
3) She is therefore not in a legal marriage according to UK law
4) Since she is not legally married to you, she can't sponsor you for a visa
I don't think she would be in any trouble, as such - the marriage is simply not recognised.
It would appear to be fairly clear that UK immigration will NOT recognise your marriage to your second wife. As far as they are concerned, legally your British wife remains unmarried, since the marriage that she entered into was a polygamous one. If she had been your first wife it would presumably be a different story.
I may be missing some nuance here, but it would seem straightforward:
1) UK law does not recognise polygamous marriages
2) You were already married when you married your UK citizen wife
3) She is therefore not in a legal marriage according to UK law
4) Since she is not legally married to you, she can't sponsor you for a visa
I don't think she would be in any trouble, as such - the marriage is simply not recognised.
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
"Polygamous marriages legally performed in another country where the law allows it are legally recognised for the purposes of welfare benefits, but not for pension, immigration or citizenship purposes."
It would appear to be fairly clear that UK immigration will NOT recognise your marriage to your second wife. As far as they are concerned, legally your British wife remains unmarried, since the marriage that she entered into was a polygamous one. If she had been your first wife it would presumably be a different story.
I may be missing some nuance here, but it would seem straightforward:
1) UK law does not recognise polygamous marriages
2) You were already married when you married your UK citizen wife
3) She is therefore not in a legal marriage according to UK law
4) Since she is not legally married to you, she can't sponsor you for a visa
I don't think she would be in any trouble, as such - the marriage is simply not recognised.
It would appear to be fairly clear that UK immigration will NOT recognise your marriage to your second wife. As far as they are concerned, legally your British wife remains unmarried, since the marriage that she entered into was a polygamous one. If she had been your first wife it would presumably be a different story.
I may be missing some nuance here, but it would seem straightforward:
1) UK law does not recognise polygamous marriages
2) You were already married when you married your UK citizen wife
3) She is therefore not in a legal marriage according to UK law
4) Since she is not legally married to you, she can't sponsor you for a visa
I don't think she would be in any trouble, as such - the marriage is simply not recognised.
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Bottom line is that you'll need to divorce your first wife if you want your second British wife to sponsor you for a spouse visa to come to the UK. The only alternative would be for your second wife to sponsor you as a defacto partner which would require you to live together in a relationship akin to marriage for at least two years.