Polygamy or not - Confused
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Polygamy or not - Confused
Hi Team ,
This is my first post so HI to everyone and hope all is well with you .
I been running for months now but couldn't get any right answer until i landed in this great forum being with all of you great people and now i hope i will get my answer
My situation is as such :
I married my1st wife 5 years ago which is not a British citizen in a country which allows polygamous marriage and have 2 lovely kids and then recently i have married my 2nd wife which is British citizen and married outside British
Now my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK due the fact that she is very happy with my parents and she has no home and no parents and i am happy with her
My second wife is returning back to UK to make me sponsorship paper but i am worried is this considered as Polygamy ? As i love my second wife and want to live with her and be a helpful hand to her . I don't want to be out of law or illegal .
Please be aware that i want to live with my second wife in UK and my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK at all . I want to register my marriage to my second wife in UK as per the rules and since my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK
I thank each and everyone for taking time reading this and i apologies taking your time
God Bless you all
Imasha
This is my first post so HI to everyone and hope all is well with you .
I been running for months now but couldn't get any right answer until i landed in this great forum being with all of you great people and now i hope i will get my answer
My situation is as such :
I married my1st wife 5 years ago which is not a British citizen in a country which allows polygamous marriage and have 2 lovely kids and then recently i have married my 2nd wife which is British citizen and married outside British
Now my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK due the fact that she is very happy with my parents and she has no home and no parents and i am happy with her
My second wife is returning back to UK to make me sponsorship paper but i am worried is this considered as Polygamy ? As i love my second wife and want to live with her and be a helpful hand to her . I don't want to be out of law or illegal .
Please be aware that i want to live with my second wife in UK and my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK at all . I want to register my marriage to my second wife in UK as per the rules and since my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK
I thank each and everyone for taking time reading this and i apologies taking your time
God Bless you all
Imasha
Last edited by Imasha; Feb 6th 2016 at 1:19 pm.
#2
Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
That's an unusual question for BE, for sure!
The immigration rules for the UK are obviously only for monogamous relationships, but are applied cognizant of the fact that some countries allow polygamy. I believe that the rules applied in the UK allow immigration of polygamously married parties, but obviously only one of the wives. Polygamous relationships do not prevent individuals and one wife entering the UK.
That said, it is likely that your visa application will attract additional scrutiny if it is noted that you have two wives, so I would strongly recommend that you consult an experienced immigration lawyer.
The immigration rules for the UK are obviously only for monogamous relationships, but are applied cognizant of the fact that some countries allow polygamy. I believe that the rules applied in the UK allow immigration of polygamously married parties, but obviously only one of the wives. Polygamous relationships do not prevent individuals and one wife entering the UK.
That said, it is likely that your visa application will attract additional scrutiny if it is noted that you have two wives, so I would strongly recommend that you consult an experienced immigration lawyer.
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
My situation is as such :
I married my1st wife 5 years ago which is not a British citizen in a country which allows polygamous marriage and have 2 lovely kids and then recently i have married my 2nd wife which is British citizen and married outside British
Now my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK due the fact that she is very happy with my parents and she has no home and no parents and i am happy with her
My second wife is returning back to UK to make me sponsorship paper but i am worried is this considered as Polygamy ?
As i love my second wife and want to live with her and be a helpful hand to her . I don't want to be out of law or illegal .
Please be aware that i want to live with my second wife in UK and my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK at all .
Did you marry both your first as well as your second wife in a religious marriage outside of the UK - if so, for sponsorship purposes the UK government want to see a legalised civil marriage certificate to recognise that marriage for sponsorship purposes.
If the marriage was registered in your country then an official in English translation will be required to accompany the application that you make.
After all the proof is together, having met, (that this is not a sham) the financial requirements etc - what about getting married in the UK in a civil marriage within 6 months of getting the visa?
https://www.gov.uk/join-family-in-uk/eligibility
from that link, item 3,under 'Eligibility'
https://www.gov.uk/join-family-in-uk/eligibility
which categpry will you be applying under?
Joining your partner
You must prove that you and your partner are 18 or over and in a genuine relationship.
You must be one of the following:
married or civil partners
living together in a relationship for 2 years
engaged to be married or to become civil partners
You must prove that any previous relationships you or your partner had are permanently broken down.
You must also meet the financial requirement of:
£18,600 per year if you’re applying only for yourself
£22,400 per year for you and one child
£2,400 per year for each additional child
You’re engaged
You must prove that you plan to marry or become civil partners within 6 months of arriving in the UK.
https://www.gov.uk/join-family-in-uk/eligibility
which categpry will you be applying under?
Joining your partner
You must prove that you and your partner are 18 or over and in a genuine relationship.
You must be one of the following:
married or civil partners
living together in a relationship for 2 years
engaged to be married or to become civil partners
You must prove that any previous relationships you or your partner had are permanently broken down.
You must also meet the financial requirement of:
£18,600 per year if you’re applying only for yourself
£22,400 per year for you and one child
£2,400 per year for each additional child
You’re engaged
You must prove that you plan to marry or become civil partners within 6 months of arriving in the UK.
Last edited by not2old; Feb 6th 2016 at 2:21 pm. Reason: added to the post
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
for your reference, see post#20 in the link below
http://britishexpats.com/forum/citiz.../#post11859471
http://britishexpats.com/forum/citiz.../#post11859471
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...arriages-set14
Pay particular attention to this note:
Pay particular attention to this note:
(Note: No person domiciled in any part of the UK has the capacity to enter into a polygamous marriage. Section 11(d) of the Matrimonial Causes Act 1973 is the authority regarding a party domiciled in England and Wales ...)
Last edited by Shirtback; Feb 6th 2016 at 2:38 pm.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/public...arriages-set14
Pay particular attention to this note:
"(Note: No person domiciled in any part of the UK has the capacity to enter into a polygamous marriage. Section 11(d) of the Matrimonial Causes Act 1973 is the authority regarding a party domiciled in England and Wales ...)"
Pay particular attention to this note:
"(Note: No person domiciled in any part of the UK has the capacity to enter into a polygamous marriage. Section 11(d) of the Matrimonial Causes Act 1973 is the authority regarding a party domiciled in England and Wales ...)"
It is perfectly possible for someone to go overseas and enter into a polygamous marriage, subject to local legal requirements, but that marriage will be entirely ignored under UK law.
Things can get very messy when it comes to the legal treatment off offspring under a marriage which is void under UK law.
Last edited by Pulaski; Feb 6th 2016 at 3:54 pm.
#9
Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
Related to the Polygamy, Married, Sponsorship, financial, Residence & Domicile requirements
recently i have married my 2nd wife which is British citizen and married outside British
Now my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK due the fact that she is very happy with my parents and she has no home and no parents and i am happy with her
My second wife is returning back to UK to make me sponsorship paper but i am worried is this considered as Polygamy ? As i love my second wife and want to live with her and be a helpful hand to her . I don't want to be out of law or illegal .
Now my first wife wouldn't be coming to UK due the fact that she is very happy with my parents and she has no home and no parents and i am happy with her
My second wife is returning back to UK to make me sponsorship paper but i am worried is this considered as Polygamy ? As i love my second wife and want to live with her and be a helpful hand to her . I don't want to be out of law or illegal .
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...domicile-set15
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Last edited by not2old; Feb 6th 2016 at 3:24 pm. Reason: added to the post
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
Hi
I am/was in a similar position.
i recieved many conflicting answers so i checked with the General Registers Office and got the official answer.
Nafeesa
I am/was in a similar position.
i recieved many conflicting answers so i checked with the General Registers Office and got the official answer.
Nafeesa
#11
Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
Or, what this it in the link below?
http://britishexpats.com/forum/citiz.../#post11858933
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Last edited by not2old; Feb 6th 2016 at 3:40 pm. Reason: added to the post
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
Opps sorry - The email went to a different account:
"..However generally speaking a marriage contracted abroad will be recognised here, provided that it complied with the law of the country where it took place, the couple were free to marry and the couple had the capacity to marry under their law(s) of domicile."
So although the marriage was legal in Pakistan but my domicile is UK and hence under the UK law I was not able to marry as my decree absolute had come after my Pakistani wedding. The only alternatives are:
a. Go thru the finance route, or
b. Civil marriage
To strengthen my case I would volunteer the full information to the ECO and to prove the duration of my new marriage
"..However generally speaking a marriage contracted abroad will be recognised here, provided that it complied with the law of the country where it took place, the couple were free to marry and the couple had the capacity to marry under their law(s) of domicile."
So although the marriage was legal in Pakistan but my domicile is UK and hence under the UK law I was not able to marry as my decree absolute had come after my Pakistani wedding. The only alternatives are:
a. Go thru the finance route, or
b. Civil marriage
To strengthen my case I would volunteer the full information to the ECO and to prove the duration of my new marriage
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
Thank you all for all your help . I believe my case looks different but not sure what will be the outcome .
But what i feel since i am not registering my first wife in UK then it shouldnt be matter ...I might be wrong
But what i feel since i am not registering my first wife in UK then it shouldnt be matter ...I might be wrong
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Re: Polygamy or not - Confused
The law in the UK states that British citizens lack the capacity to enter in to polygamous marriages.
If the British citizen had been your first wife, you might have been OK, but I suspect problem you face is that your second marriage is not recognized under UK law and this would not change even if you divorced your first wife because the second marriage was void from the outset under UK law.