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Old Jul 26th 2012, 6:33 pm
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Old Jul 26th 2012, 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl
Once you are legally resident in the UK, your wife will be eligible to use the NHS. She just needs to register with an NHS doctor. The public funds are more to do with housing benefits/job seekers allowance/tax credits etc which she will not be eligible for.
That may not be necessarily right, if your wife can proof that she will be 'habitually resident' in the UK then you may get some
help.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governme...eUK/DG_4000140

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Old Jul 26th 2012, 7:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Lionda
That may not be necessarily right, if your wife can proof that she will be 'habitually resident' in the UK then you may get some
help.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governme...eUK/DG_4000140
I was referring to the US spouse. Her visa says specifically "no recourse to public funds"

The website you are referring to is primarily for UK citizens returning.
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Old Jul 26th 2012, 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl
Not at all - there is no forbidding such a person from returning to the UK with his non-EU spouse. There are, however, rules for doing so. One of which is that a certain minimum financial requirement must be met in order for said couple to be able to support themselves in the UK without recourse to public funds.

The minimum requirement is now that the UK citizen should earn 18,600 UKP per annum in order to support the couple.

This is not a huge amount- it is less than the average for the UK and is said to be the minimum a couple would need to live a standard/average life in the UK.

If this requirement cannot be met (and in many cases of returning ex-pats neither individual has a job to go to) then savings/assets need to be available for living expenses.

If neither of these requirements can be met, it begs the question as to why the people are making the move back to the UK in the first place.
The new income threshold is not "less than the average for the UK". Here's an article in the Economist which has been quoted & posted several times in the other stickied thread here about the new rules. This new income figure could prevent more than half of all young adults (20-30 yrs) living in Britain now as well as more than half of all British women of ANY age from entering into relationships with non-EEA partners and being able to bring that partner to live in their "home country".

. . . . According to the Migration Observatory at Oxford University, 47% of British citizens in employment would not qualify to bring in a family member, nor would 58% of people 20-30 years old, or 61% of women of any age.
http://www.economist.com/node/21556926

Remember that ONLY the salary of the UK citizen counts at present. You say this isn't a huge amount, but to some older & younger British folks it certainly is a huge amount. The default savings multiplier is no more reasonable. This is a thread for those who long to repatriate--why in the world should only the richer British people be able to move back "home" with a foregn spouse?

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This is a thread for those who long to repatriate--why in the world should only the richer British people be able to move back "home" with a foregn spouse?
This new rule is giving the wealthy more rights as citizens of the UK. It sends a statement! If you have money you deserve to be treated better by the current UK government. If you are the working poor or slight better off, you are not worthy or deserving to pick who best to love. Hard to believe but love has now become a political pawn.
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Old Jul 28th 2012, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl
Not at all - there is no forbidding such a person from returning to the UK with his non-EU spouse. There are, however, rules for doing so. One of which is that a certain minimum financial requirement must be met in order for said couple to be able to support themselves in the UK without recourse to public funds.

The minimum requirement is now that the UK citizen should earn 18,600 UKP per annum in order to support the couple.

This is not a huge amount- it is less than the average for the UK and is said to be the minimum a couple would need to live a standard/average life in the UK.
This stuff has already been discredited in the other threads. And, I see, in a post above.

Most people do not earn so called average wage. Entire government departments have a maximum salary for the greater number of its staff that is lower.

If £18,600 is the minimum necessary to manage, then how come benefits pay a lot less? Couple rate benefit is £5,700 pa. That's all someone owning their own home would get other than CT benefit. If they can manage on that then why should the level be set at more than three times that amount?

Even with Housing Benefit, that will still be quite a bit less than the net income produced from £19k gross.

I could return with my Canadian wife and, with the proceeds of property sale, buy a home and have resources well above benefits but below the new requirement. And we'd be denied that family life that Britain has signed up to

If this requirement cannot be met (and in many cases of returning ex-pats neither individual has a job to go to) then savings/assets need to be available for living expenses.

If neither of these requirements can be met, it begs the question as to why the people are making the move back to the UK in the first place.
Well, ignoring that it's their country and why shouldn't they return, there is absolute proof that people don't need these sorts of income levels to (better than) get by.
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