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Old May 11th 2015, 2:07 pm
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to my question

For someone arriving in the UK via the SS route with an FP that also has an EHIC from a member state, who then in turn get their UK (ordinary) residence card - are these folks allowed access to free NHS without having to have CSI?
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
My understanding is that CSI is not required in Surinder Singh cases regardless of whether a sponsor works or not on their return to the UK because British citizens do not need to remain a qualified person when they return to the UK because they have Right of Abode.
expanding the question & trust you can help answer, as follows ...again thanks

'under the SS route, that the person who is the non EU spouse of a British citizen has their Family Permit', who then arrives in the UK with their Brit spouse On arrival, the FP holder within 3 months of arrival in the UK get their 'residence card'. Is the non EU spouse of a Brit holding the said UK residence card allowed free NHS without having the need to have CSI?

or, another way of asking the same question...

Is it necessary for the non EU spouse of a British citizen now in the UK as the holder of a UK residence card required to have CSI? if not, how do they then acquire free NHS - what proof or document would they need (if any in addition to the UK residence card) to allow them free NHS?
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Old May 11th 2015, 2:08 pm
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From April 2015 going forward & under the present rules, are folks that acquire a UK (ordinary) residence card entitled to free NHS without having the need for CSI or to have to pay the IHS?
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What are you defining as 'a UK ordinary residence card'?
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By "ordinary", I mean the 'residence card' which folks can apply for coming from the EU/EEA or via the SS route.

https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-a-uk-re...-card/overview

My reference or question on that point excludes the 'permanent residence' card. That is why I used the term 'ordinary' residence which some EU countries use not to mean 'permanent residence which is acquired only after 5 years of (ordinary) residence
Well, that would depend on the status of their sponsor and their right to reside in the UK. If they are working then, no, they won't need to hold CSI or pay for IHS as they have a right to reside. They are self-sufficient then they will need CSI (i.e. EHIC card) in order to maintain their right to reside after three months. If they enter via the Surinder Singh route then then don't need to do either regardless of the status of the sponsor because as a British citizen they have Right of Abode in the UK and therefore don't need to do anything in order to maintain their right to reside.
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Old May 11th 2015, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by not2old
expanding the question & trust you can help answer, as follows ...again thanks

'under the SS route, that the person who is the non EU spouse of a British citizen has their Family Permit', who then arrives in the UK with their Brit spouse On arrival, the FP holder within 3 months of arrival in the UK get their 'residence card'. Is the non EU spouse of a Brit holding the said UK residence card allowed free NHS without having the need to have CSI?
Correct.

or, another way of asking the same question...

Is it necessary for the non EU spouse of a British citizen now in the UK as the holder of a UK residence card required to have CSI? if not, how do they then acquire free NHS - what proof or document would they need (if any in addition to the UK residence card) to allow them free NHS?
No, not if they entered under Surinder Singh. Their residence card would suffice as evidence to access the NHS and other services.
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Old May 11th 2015, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
All countries that have freedom of movement with the UK (EU/EEA member states and Switzerland) operate the EHIC card scheme. If you're coming to the UK from an EEA country as a self-sufficient person (student, retired, financially independent, etc..) and you have a EHIC card from your home country then this is all you will need to access the NHS.

Aggh, NO. A retired person needs an S1 before they travel to the country they are going to retire to, if they qualify for one. It is called a different name in some other EEA countries. That will mean their own country will cover all their healthcare in that EEA country.

As the NHS link for EHICs stated, EHICs don't always cover all treatment in the UK. They are also only meant to be used by those who are visiting another country but students can usually get away with using them as they can claim they are only temporary in another member state. That link and quote I gave confirmed this for students.

But, as I have said before, the UK don't care who uses another countries EHIC even it they are residing and not visiting, just as long as the UK doesn't pay.

Originally Posted by BritInParis
The cost is passed onto your home country.
Yes! Because having a right to reside in the UK does not give free access to the NHS.

Those that have never lived in their member states won't have EHICs and will need to buy a CSI if they aren't a Worker or Self Employed Qualified person.

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Old May 11th 2015, 2:22 pm
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BIP @post #93, thanks
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