Home office is a business!!

Old Jun 6th 2019, 2:11 pm
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I did some research on my break at work. The home office generate £1135 profit for every spouse visa. To be honest I think that disgusting. Honestly can't believe how they are exploiting vulnerable people.

Source:https://www.gov.uk/government/public...nsparency-data
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This is already known. Unfortunately no one is going to fight for immigrants .
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Originally Posted by Hasanp2244 View Post
I did some research on my break at work. The home office generate £1135 profit for every spouse visa. To be honest I think that disgusting. Honestly can't believe how they are exploiting vulnerable people.

Source:https://www.gov.uk/government/public...nsparency-data
Given how many man hours and staff go in to processing visa apps, I don't see why they shouldn't make a bit of profit tbh, UK taxpayers would be very happy if they did instead of having to subsidise it. Although I suspect that given they lose money on other visa apps, they probably make nothing in the end anyway.
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I think everyone has their own view. I am a UK tax payer and I don't think HO should be making a profit, especially on family applications.
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Originally Posted by bookerw100 View Post
I think everyone has their own view. I am a UK tax payer and I don't think HO should be making a profit, especially on family applications.
Fair enough. Remember there are fee waivers for those who are truly in need, and that the fees pay for all sorts of immigration services, not just visa processing.

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I think you misunderstand visas. They are not a right, but a privilege and as such, it is reasonable that the HO uses them to help pay for other HO services.

Compared to other countries, they are actually pretty good value. For example, a spouse visa for Australia is $7000, plus children can be up to $3500 each, plus things such as medicals and police checks. There are no waivers on fees.

Processing times are up to two years and this is likely to blow out from next month.

Remember, the HO recognises that the country wants skilled migrants. But a spouse may bring no skills at all
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I think you misunderstand visas. They are not a right, but a privilege and as such, it is reasonable that the HO uses them to help pay for other HO services.

Compared to other countries, they are actually pretty good value. For example, a spouse visa for Australia is $7000, plus children can be up to $3500 each, plus things such as medicals and police checks. There are no waivers on fees.

Processing times are up to two years and this is likely to blow out from next month.

Remember, the HO recognises that the country wants skilled migrants. But a spouse may bring no skills at all
I have no problem with countries setting their own fees for visas, that's just the way it is. However I don't think Australia's spouse visa fees can be said to be more expensive than the UK's. A non-EU spouse in the UK will need 3 visas totalling around £5,000 (pounds, not dollars) before gaining indefinite leave to remain in the UK. International health surcharge fees add another £2,000 to that, so £7,000 in total. Spouses in Australia only pay the one visa fee, plus they're eligible for full Medicare coverage from day one with no charges.
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Originally Posted by verystormy View Post
I think you misunderstand visas. They are not a right, but a privilege and as such, it is reasonable that the HO uses them to help pay for other HO services.

Compared to other countries, they are actually pretty good value. For example, a spouse visa for Australia is $7000, plus children can be up to $3500 each, plus things such as medicals and police checks. There are no waivers on fees.

Processing times are up to two years and this is likely to blow out from next month.

Remember, the HO recognises that the country wants skilled migrants. But a spouse may bring no skills at all
Well if you are trying to bring your spouse to the country, it is not necessary for them to have any skills which is why the HO doesn't ask for any academic qualifications, bar English language. This is the way it should be, you don't fall in love by looking at someone's academic qualifications.
Economic migrants are different to family migrants. In my opinion, government offices shouldn't be aiming to profit of family unification. If you are a tourist or work permit , holder, then I can still understand charging more. Not for family visas.
You mention Australia, and how expensive it is. Just because another country is doing something, doesn't mean we should follow suit. By that reasoning shall we privatise the NHS as another developed country like the US has private healthcare?
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Originally Posted by verystormy View Post
I think you misunderstand visas. They are not a right, but a privilege and as such, it is reasonable that the HO uses them to help pay for other HO services.

Compared to other countries, they are actually pretty good value. For example, a spouse visa for Australia is $7000, plus children can be up to $3500 each, plus things such as medicals and police checks. There are no waivers on fees.

Processing times are up to two years and this is likely to blow out from next month.

Remember, the HO recognises that the country wants skilled migrants. But a spouse may bring no skills at all
If children are involved I think you will find it is a right, the home office has an obligation to protect children of British citizens. Unfortunately now citizens rights go to the highest bidder. The home office is there to protect and serve British citizens and NOT as a profit making exercise. The UK has become a sick country in a sick world
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The only people that have a right to live in any country are its citizens. For anyone else it is a privilege.

If you view the whole thing logically, then think about the amount of services a spouse is instantly allowed to access - education, health (don't pretend the IHS covers everything) roads, all those things that tax payers have been funding for years but which are available to the migrant instantly, without paying any taxes etc. Whilst the money paid may not going directly to one of these places it goes into the country's coffers and funds services that the migrant will use. Its not as if the Home Office staff are taking home wheelbarrows of money each week, the money belongs to the country and helps to fund that new "better" life the migrant wanted. .
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If children are involved I think you will find it is a right, the home office has an obligation to protect children of British citizens. Unfortunately now citizens rights go to the highest bidder. The home office is there to protect and serve British citizens and NOT as a profit making exercise. The UK has become a sick country in a sick world
Goodness, for someone who has just sponsored their wife to join him in the UK you have little respect or regard for the country........ you sound very bitter......
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Originally Posted by Pollyana View Post
The only people that have a right to live in any country are its citizens. For anyone else it is a privilege.

If you view the whole thing logically, then think about the amount of services a spouse is instantly allowed to access - education, health (don't pretend the IHS covers everything) roads, all those things that tax payers have been funding for years but which are available to the migrant instantly, without paying any taxes etc. Whilst the money paid may not going directly to one of these places it goes into the country's coffers and funds services that the migrant will use. Its not as if the Home Office staff are taking home wheelbarrows of money each week, the money belongs to the country and helps to fund that new "better" life the migrant wanted. .
Based on that children of British citizens should not have to pay anything then?... by right
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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl View Post
Goodness, for someone who has just sponsored their wife to join him in the UK you have little respect or regard for the country........ you sound very bitter......
Why does it have to be bitter to have strong opinions about what is right and wrong. Define country?...

The current immigration policies have been shown to be unfair, discriminatory, barely legal, etc etc .... maybe I should be wag waving and proud of these things... nah sorry
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Originally Posted by 60minuteman View Post
Why does it have to be bitter to have strong opinions about what is right and wrong. Define country?...

The current immigration policies have been shown to be unfair, discriminatory, barely legal, etc etc .... maybe I should be wag waving and proud of these things... nah sorry
Not commenting on your opinions of the immigration system - your statement that the UK is a sick country is one that caught my eye .......
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Disappointing that so many people agree with this stance

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...families-apart
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