Vexcore

Thanks... but not holding my breath... who knows man? they could of 'LIED' to my mother for all i know... perhaps they're just 'stalling' ??? Well i gitta send this letter tmr via DHL another 30/40 quid out of pocket!

If i haven't got his passport BY JULY then i worry about my family what will do. lol my mother the old man cousins etc will be on the all mighty warpath no doubt.

Exactly.... it's all gibberish and bollocks

37100

So...in exceptional circumstances it IS possible to obtain an ETD without every having had a PP.

Had your mother not gone, they were going to tell you this when? A few more weeks down the road?

Razakhtar

According to the beijing embassy I'm guessing it must be the same everywhere else,in fact the lady i spoke to was a great help. She said the advice line were terrible and needed changing.

Also, I totally agree about the passport office notifying applicants about any issues. They prob wouldn't have told you about the letter until it suited them. Good on your mum, at least she got through!

pondhopper2014

Are these cases of 20 week waits from one particular country, or is this from every country? I can't tell where people are from. We sent ours in (not to Liverpool though, maybe it's a problem at that office?) - and not to mention, why were ours told to be sent somewhere else?? - just a couple days ago, payment was taken online at the time of application, all documents couriered on Monday, delivery with signature required will be tomorrow morning (UK). Am I looking at 12-20 weeks from then or is it just particular counties that are being targeted with delays? Like an inter-political delay thing rather than a purely HMPO issue? I'm ONLY asking, I DON'T know... just curious.

Vexcore

Yea guys/girls... my mother used to be a lawyer now she is a manager and takes no prisoners... i don't really need my 'mother' for help but in this case? i do...

if i never got her to 'push them' who knows when i will be called about the passport? i just hope they're not bullshitting me.


@pondhopper2014

That 20 weeks is from places like Pakistan? and Kenya (where fraud is HIGH)

johno5175

Yea i thought you meant that lol. My ipad does the same.

I find it highly doubtful they can get an ETD for a kid if they have not had a passport before. There was a guy on one of the threads )if my memory serves me correctly) who asked at the embassy about an ETD as the country he was in is unstable (Thailand i think). Anyways the embassy said should be no problem. Then they got back to him later with a message from the FCO that under no circumstances can an ETD be issued to a child with no previous passport, Only exception to that rule is for a premature baby.
But if that has now changed i would love to hear of any updates to that.

johno5175

Do you have parental rights? i.e named on the BC? They are funny about this. I was considering writing a letter confirming i am the father plus a letter from the mother confirming this when i send off my application.

johno5175

Fixed it for ya buddy

Razakhtar

Yeah I actually told the lady from the embassy about that exact situation, and she said as far as she has knows that it can be arranged as the beijing embassy have done so in the past. She said she would contact the Liverpool office on my behalf and if they didn't resolve the issue she would begin the application for ETD for my son. And I would need to come with my wife and son to begin the process.
I hope it can work out and will def keep you posted should I have to go down that route.

As for the Liverpool office, I haven't received any response both from them or my MP.
My only guess is that they are investigating how documents could go missing and why the application isn't in their system.
I'm hoping they'll contact me soon and I can move forward from there.

Vexcore

Of course i have 'parental rights' i am the father after all, and i am 'listed' on his local Chinese birth certificate and his British one.

but they already know that when i sent my application to them on the 27th of march... so i don't know wtf they are on about now.

im just gonna type some bollocks and sign it with another photocopy of my passport.... they're extremely pissing me right off. (feel like knocking them all out)

Razakhtar

Sending a letter as proof you are the father. It all just sounds like stalling for time.
Interestingly I spoke to a manager from the advice line about the useless staff they have and strangely he agreed! He said they would be reviewing what staff say to callers especially those from OS.
He apologised and said hopefully in the future they would be better equipped to handle callers from abroad. He also said he would take it up with his seniors that there needs to be a direct line to Liverpool for urgent cases.
Whether of not it happens who knows.
For those interested his name was Kevin. Feel free to request a chat

Vexcore

Exactly... why would he say to my mother.. 'the passport has been processed'

But they need proof i am who i am? shit doesn't sound right to me.

Vexcore

LOOOL

Didn't see that.. lmao

Razakhtar

Still better then being told it's not in the system!
Which I could call the office directly but the number posted on here earlier doesn't seem to get answered

Vexcore

True, but i am sick to death of calling the 'AdviceLine' the liverpool office does have a number it MUST... but what is it ?????

i've found 3 on google all just ring out and no answer.... total BS