chubby88

Thanks, I have been researching and there is conflicting information, I was going to apply using Form MN1 (as you suggest) within the Section 3(2) category on the basis that the MN1 guide states (on page 11) that 'The 3 year residence requirement for the parent does not need to be met if the child is stateless'. however in Section 1.9 at the bottom of page 18, it states that if the application is being based on the child being 'stateless' then forms S2 or S3 should be used. However, the requirements in these forms are proof of 3 years and 5 years residency in the UK, so it doesn't make sense (or I am missing something).
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chubby88

Thanks for your response but I have since found out that all applications for Citizenship go directly to the Liverpool office in the UK and hence the British Embassy in Manila (or anywhere else) cannot process British Citizen applications so there is no point in going to see them.

englishguygoinghome

Your application is being made based upon the parent's nationality, the statelessness of the Child is the basis for the exemption from the residence criteria ONLY.

There is a possibility for someone resident in the UK to register as British based upon the fact that they are stateless (i.e. irrelevant of their Parent's nationality). In that case the primary basis for permission to register is the statelessness of hte person and a different form is used.

Or at least, that's how I understand it

pennylessinindia

yes they do but they would be able to offer assistance

chubby88

OK that makes sense. I will send an email to UKBA just to confirm. Thanks once again for your kind help.

chubby88

Thanks but I contacted the British Embassy because there was no suitable appointment category and the response by email was that 'The British Embassy Manila is not able to provide any assistance regarding Citizenship or Nationality issues' and simply provided an URL to the UKBA website. So put simply they can't be ars*d to provide any help...

BritInParis

With the transfer of overseas passport issuing from the FCO to the IPS (now HMPO) the determination of British citizenship is now solely a Home Office matter. A consular officer would be able to register the child's birth providing it automatically had British citizenship by descent, but as registration is required, there's not much they can do in this situation.

What is the citizenship status of your daughter's mother?

chubby88

Thanks, Yes this was my understanding too. My daughter's mother (my wife) is a Filipino.

Bluegrass Lass

This has me confused, but then I am no expert on how citizenship is passed on in the Philippines. If your daughter's mother is Filipino, and the Philippines follows the bloodlines, then why can't your daughter have Filipino citizenship? Do both parents have to be Filipino to pass on Philippine citizenship?

BritInParis

Then it sounds highly unlikely that your grandchild is stateless given that she was born in the Philippines to a Filipino mother. I would suggest your application for registration would be rejected on the grounds that she would be a citizen of the Philippines.

chubby88

You misunderstood the thread. My grandaughter was born in the Philippines to a British 'by Descent' Mother (my daughter) and has no Filipino citizenship, she is in the Philippines as a tourist and my grandaughter's father is not recorded on the icertificate of live birth' hence rendering my grand- daughter 'stateless'

BritInParis

Why didn't your daughter gain Filipino citizenship through her mother?

chubby88

She was born in Hong Kong and got a British passport at birth and we didn't bother with dual citizenship

BritInParis

With or without a passport your daughter is still a Filipino citizen however and therefore so is your grandson.

pennylessinindia

If this is the case then I think your grand daughter may not be considered stateless. On what basis is your daughter residing in the philipines