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Craig_EllisCC Aug 11th 2017 9:01 am

British Protected Persons/British Subjects
 
Hi Guys,

I pretty sure a thread like this has been done a 1000 times.

We just did an assessment for a Status Trace with Philip Gamble, has anyone used their services before?

According to their online assessment my Father (b. 1955) in Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia) is a BPP due to being born in a protectorate state, my grandfather (South African born) lived in Northern Rhodesia when my father was born and fought for the British in WWII, both him and my Grandmother had British subject passports of Northern Rhodesia and Nyasaland, does anyone know if that meant they were British Citizens?

Add on to that fact my sister was born in Rhodesia in 1979 and is according to the assessment a BOC (British overseas citizen)??

It all seems very complex hence our assessment with Philip Gamble, we are awaiting a reply and based on that will decide if it is worth spending the money.

Was hoping someone might have some info on the Protectorate States of that era to see if we should indeed pursue it.

Kind Regards,
Craig

angie_329 Aug 11th 2017 11:55 am

Re: British Protected Persons/British Subjects
 

Originally Posted by Craig_EllisCC (Post 12314286)
Hi Guys,

I pretty sure a thread like this has been done a 1000 times.

We just did an assessment for a Status Trace with Philip Gamble, has anyone used their services before?

According to their online assessment my Father (b. 1955) in Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia) is a BPP due to being born in a protectorate state, my grandfather (South African born) lived in Northern Rhodesia when my father was born and fought for the British in WWII, both him and my Grandmother had British subject passports of Northern Rhodesia and Nyasaland, does anyone know if that meant they were British Citizens?

Add on to that fact my sister was born in Rhodesia in 1979 and is according to the assessment a BOC (British overseas citizen)??

It all seems very complex hence our assessment with Philip Gamble, we are awaiting a reply and based on that will decide if it is worth spending the money.

Was hoping someone might have some info on the Protectorate States of that era to see if we should indeed pursue it.

Kind Regards,
Craig


yes, there have been a few,,, !
British nationality law is very complex and depends on that individual's ancestors and the colonial arrangements at the time. There have been lots of posters with various histories from Rhodesia, Kenya, South Africa, etc
If you claim is convoluted you need to make an application for BC stating and quoting all the relevant laws at the time to prove your case. PG are well known and specialise in BC cases. The other option is immigration lawyers/ barristers- at Garden Chambers- where authors who wrote the definite tome 'Fransman's British Nationality law' are based. They are more expensive, as someone I know had a quote.

Philip Gamble mentions a test case here on Rhodesia which may apply to your sister:
https://www.facebook.com/PhilipGamblePartners/
Philip Gamble has today received confirmation that a recent TEST CASE for those born in Rhodesia during the decade before Independence (where they have a UK-born grandfather) has been SUCCESSFUL.

f you were born in Rhodesia between 02.03.1970 and 18.04.1980 and you have a UK-born grandfather (which includes Northern Ireland), then you should qualify for British Nationality.

there was another person on the forum who used them but for Kenya births of her sons.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/citiz...escent-793625/


Hopefully others will comment on the other points.


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