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Old Jul 12th 2004, 11:41 am
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my father is a british citizen living in the US, and my mother is a US citizen. I was born in the US, and am a US citizen. I am looking into duel citizenship US-Britian. How would I go about this?
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Old Jul 12th 2004, 2:56 pm
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"Carisa123" <member26531@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > my father is a british citizen living in the US, and my mother is a US
    > citizen. I was born in the US, and am a US citizen. I am looking into
    > duel citizenship US-Britian. How would I go about this?
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Check out the following link:
http://www.britainusa.com/consular/dualnata.asp.
 
Old Jul 13th 2004, 7:47 am
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You may already be a British citizen. You haven't given enough information.

- were your parents married when you were born? If not, did they get married later?

- was your father born or naturalised in the UK?
If not, how did he obtain his British citizenship?

Jeremy

Originally posted by Carisa123
my father is a british citizen living in the US, and my mother is a US citizen. I was born in the US, and am a US citizen. I am looking into duel citizenship US-Britian. How would I go about this?
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Old Jul 13th 2004, 7:50 am
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Originally posted by JAJ
You may already be a British citizen. You haven't given enough information.

- were your parents married when you were born? If not, did they get married later?

- was your father born or naturalised in the UK?
If not, how did he obtain his British citizenship?

Jeremy

yes, my parents were married when I was born.
My father was born in England, and moved to America when he was 21. He never became an American citizen, and has a green card.
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Old Jul 13th 2004, 2:44 pm
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    > yes, my parents
    > were married when I was born.
    > My father was born in England, and moved
    > to America when he was 21. He never became an American citizen, and has
    > a green card.
Then it appears you may be a British citizen by decent. In other words, your
Dad is British which also means you are. Now I am no expert, but the
information I have found indicates that you should be careful what you do as
a British citizen as you could jeopardize your US citizenship. For example,
if you swear allegiance to the crown that is grounds for losing US
citizenship. So don't go joining the armed forces in the UK, as you will
have to swear you allegiance to crown and country. .

Having said the above, I would strongly recommend getting expert advice. If
it costs you a few hundred dollars it will be a good insurance against
making a mistake and losing you US citizenship.

David.
 
Old Jul 14th 2004, 12:56 am
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Originally posted by David
    > yes, my parents
    > were married when I was born.
    > My father was born in England, and moved
    > to America when he was 21. He never became an American citizen, and has
    > a green card.
Then it appears you may be a British citizen by decent. In other words, your
Dad is British which also means you are. Now I am no expert, but the
information I have found indicates that you should be careful what you do as
a British citizen as you could jeopardize your US citizenship. For example,
if you swear allegiance to the crown that is grounds for losing US
citizenship. So don't go joining the armed forces in the UK, as you will
have to swear you allegiance to crown and country. .

Having said the above, I would strongly recommend getting expert advice. If
it costs you a few hundred dollars it will be a good insurance against
making a mistake and losing you US citizenship.

David.
I don't think she's lose US Citizenship at all. She is not naturalising (and many USA citizens in the UK become UK citizens at no detrement to their US Cit status)
Alll she will probably do is apply for a passport with proof of birth abroad and Bob will be her preverbial uncle.
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Originally posted by manc1976
I don't think she's lose US Citizenship at all. She is not naturalising (and many USA citizens in the UK become UK citizens at no detrement to their US Cit status)
Alll she will probably do is apply for a passport with proof of birth abroad and Bob will be her preverbial uncle.
As manc1976 implies, even naturalisation as a British citizen would not usually result in loss of US citizenship. In this case, though, from the information that the original poster has given, she is already a British citizen anyway (by descent through her father) and so there is no question of loss of US citizenship if she simply applies for a British passport.

The advice above to get a professional opinion if you are in any doubt is generally good advice, although it probably isn't really necessary in this case.
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Old Jul 14th 2004, 2:36 pm
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"David" wrote:

> Now I am no expert, but the information I have found indi-
> cates that you should be careful what you do as a British
> citizen as you could jeopardize your US citizenship.

In fact, the concerns expressed by many in this regard are extremely
overcautious and quite exaggerated. Although, in theory, doing any
of various things could result in loss of one's US citizenship, this
happens very, VERY rarely in practice.

> For example, if you swear allegiance to the crown that is
> grounds for losing US citizenship.

In fact, no, it is generally not.

US law says that taking an oath or affirmation of allegiance to a
foreign government is cause for losing US citizenship =only= if it
was your =intention= to give up US citizenship when you did this.
Same for about half a dozen other things which could potentially
result in loss of US citizenship -- such loss will only result in
cases where that was the person's intention.

Further, the US State Dept.'s written policy, since 1990, has been
that they will almost always assume (unless clearly told otherwise)
that such actions were performed =without= any intention of giving
up US citizenship -- and that, as a result, almost no one ever loses
their US citizenship any more on account of foreign naturalization,
foreign oaths of allegiance, etc., except when a person goes out of
his/her way and affirmatively states to US officials that it was,
in reality, his/her intention to sever his/her ties to the US.

Reference: http://travel.state.gov/loss.html

You may also find my FAQ (http://www.richw.org/dualcit/) to be of
general interest on this subject.

Rich Wales [email protected] http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
*DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, professional immigration consultant,
or consular officer. My comments are for discussion purposes only and
are not intended to be relied upon as legal or professional advice.
 
Old Jul 14th 2004, 11:45 pm
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    > "David" wrote:
    > > Now I am no expert, but the information I have found indi-
    > > cates that you should be careful what you do as a British
    > > citizen as you could jeopardize your US citizenship.
    > In fact, the concerns expressed by many in this regard are extremely
    > overcautious and quite exaggerated. Although, in theory, doing any
    > of various things could result in loss of one's US citizenship, this
    > happens very, VERY rarely in practice.

Rich,

Thank you for the your response. I have learned a lot from the information
you supplied.

David.
 
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Originally posted by David
"Rich Wales" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "David" wrote:
    > > Now I am no expert, but the information I have found indi-
    > > cates that you should be careful what you do as a British
    > > citizen as you could jeopardize your US citizenship.
    > In fact, the concerns expressed by many in this regard are extremely
    > overcautious and quite exaggerated. Although, in theory, doing any
    > of various things could result in loss of one's US citizenship, this
    > happens very, VERY rarely in practice.

Rich,

Thank you for the your response. I have learned a lot from the information
you supplied.

David.
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Old Jul 25th 2004, 4:29 pm
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Originally posted by simon bland
It should be a piece of cake to get a UK passport (citizenship). You will need evidence that your father is British and, your fathers name should correspond on your birth certificate.

Along with these doc's go to the passport agency (schedule an interview date). My daughter has dual nationality and has not been effected in any way.

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