British citizen living abroad? Non-EEA spouse? This may affect you!
#212
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
I've been looking at this and it's going to get challenged for sure. UN human rights say you have a right to return to your homeland and not be put into exile and I don't see how the British government can subscribe to these principles while making their own citizens get divorced if they want to return.
#213
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
I would be a liar if I didn't think Britain needs to do something to reduce its number of migrants, but to ban long-term Commonwealth spouses of genuine British-born citizens would be very extreme.
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Having read this I feel sorry for those wishing to return. But I do think some havent understood this correctly when children are mentioned. It talks about SPONSORING children. If you are British and have a none EU wife, your children are automaticlly British by decent and so don't need sponsoring. Don't these children have the right to live in the UK anyway if you get them British passports?
I think this section of the law is about people who have married somebody and taken on the foreign kids of the new spouse.
Happy to be corrected though!
I think this section of the law is about people who have married somebody and taken on the foreign kids of the new spouse.
Happy to be corrected though!
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
When the government got into power, they ran a website asking what the public wanted to be changed. It made very interesting reading. I didn't even know that half of those abuses were going on!
There are still discussions' going on on forums now about how the UK should adopt other EU countries welfare two tier payment systems and healthcare payment systems. It was interesting to see that the government have mentioned the drain on the NHS by retired foreign nationals moving to the UK and needing free heathcare.
The "I'm British so you should pay for me/my family" is not going down well here. However, I do appreciate that many Brits aren't like that at all. It's those selfish few that were becoming too many, that have spoilt it for others.
Last edited by formula; Jun 12th 2012 at 9:28 am.
#218
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
It seems to me that the elephant in the room is that most of the UK government's concern is over the number of people coming in from the Indian sub-continent (aka South Asia). In addition, the growing numbers coming in as refugees/asylum seekers from such countries as Somalia who apply to bring in their extended families (in many cases with little English and poor/non-existent skills).
They just don't want to be accused of racism against non-caucasians (non-whites) so they're applying the new rules to all citizens of non-EU countries.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-5-years.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...d-Britain.html
I didn't even realise that one could apply to bring in cousins, uncles and aunts to settle in the UK! I'm glad this is going to cease, they're surely not 'immediate' family members.
They just don't want to be accused of racism against non-caucasians (non-whites) so they're applying the new rules to all citizens of non-EU countries.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-5-years.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...d-Britain.html
I didn't even realise that one could apply to bring in cousins, uncles and aunts to settle in the UK! I'm glad this is going to cease, they're surely not 'immediate' family members.
Last edited by Englishmum; Jun 12th 2012 at 12:52 pm.
#219
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
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There are still discussions' going on on forums now about how the UK should adopt other EU countries welfare two tier payment systems and healthcare payment systems. It was interesting to see that the government have mentioned the drain on the NHS by retired foreign nationals moving to the UK and needing free heathcare.
The "I'm British so you should pay for me/my family" is not going down well here. However, I do appreciate that many Brits aren't like that at all. It's those selfish few that were becoming too many, that have spoilt it for others.
There are still discussions' going on on forums now about how the UK should adopt other EU countries welfare two tier payment systems and healthcare payment systems. It was interesting to see that the government have mentioned the drain on the NHS by retired foreign nationals moving to the UK and needing free heathcare.
The "I'm British so you should pay for me/my family" is not going down well here. However, I do appreciate that many Brits aren't like that at all. It's those selfish few that were becoming too many, that have spoilt it for others.
#220
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
They just don't want to be accused of racism against non-caucasians (non-whites) so they're applying the new rules to all citizens of non-EU countries.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-5-years.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...d-Britain.html
I didn't even realise that one could apply to bring in cousins, uncles and aunts to settle in the UK! I'm glad this is going to cease, they're surely not 'immediate' family members.
#221
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
If she becomes a legitimate citizen of the UK, she should not be treated differently to another citizen. Regardless of her race.
#222
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Having read this I feel sorry for those wishing to return. But I do think some havent understood this correctly when children are mentioned. It talks about SPONSORING children. If you are British and have a none EU wife, your children are automaticlly British by decent and so don't need sponsoring. Don't these children have the right to live in the UK anyway if you get them British passports?
I think this section of the law is about people who have married somebody and taken on the foreign kids of the new spouse.
Happy to be corrected though!
I think this section of the law is about people who have married somebody and taken on the foreign kids of the new spouse.
Happy to be corrected though!
#223
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Originally Posted by formula
That's just what I and others thought of you when we read your post stating that it was damm right that you expected others to pay for your foreign wife's heathcare when you retired to the UK.
That's just what I and others thought of you when we read your post stating that it was damm right that you expected others to pay for your foreign wife's heathcare when you retired to the UK.
If she becomes a legitimate citizen of the UK, she should not be treated differently to another citizen. Regardless of her race.
Again we have the Mail-like exaggeration of abuse as an excuse to chip away at social benefits. I object to May's legislation on two grounds;
I don't like Government legislation the gets involved in my love life and puts barriers on a UK citizen living in his/her country of birth because of who they fall in love with and marry. This is a truly conservative view.
I don't like legislation that creates classes of UK residents that the benefits system treats differently as it's then easier to create further classes of residents and reduce benefits. Means testing of the NHS and state pension then become's acceptable. Then people who don't get the benefit will lobby not to pay the tax which reduces the funding of the system so the benefits have to be further cut. We must fight for access and levels of benefits to be maintained. Once it becomes acceptable to cut someone else's benefits, yours will be next.
I'm single and, to be crass, rich so the current legislation would not affect me even if I was married to a non-EU citizen, but when the income or net worth of a UK citizen is the deciding factor on whether they can live with their immediate family in the UK I am affected because it makes me a little less proud of my country.
Last edited by nun; Jun 12th 2012 at 2:44 pm.
#224
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
The new benefit rules will be much better for those that want to work and support their family and a nightmare for those that don't.
#225
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-2327268.html
Last edited by formula; Jun 12th 2012 at 3:14 pm.