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Old Jun 11th 2012, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by guyb
I am rarely in agreement with the Daily Mail but sometimes egregious policies make strange bedfellows:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...sian-love.html

Also:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...uk-theresa-may
The first paragraph of the Mail article sounds like it comes from the "National Socialist Chronicle". I had a shower after reading it, but I agree with the sentiment of the concluding paragraphs. However, there are still a lot of sentences in there that have the smell of the jack boot about them.

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Old Jun 11th 2012, 10:52 pm
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The first paragraph of the Mail article sounds like it comes from the "National Socialist Chronicle". I had a shower after reading it, but I agree with the sentiment of the concluding paragraphs. However, there are still a lot of sentences in there that have the smell of the jack boot about them.
the tide of the thousands of foreign murderers, rapists and thieves who freely walk our streets
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Old Jun 11th 2012, 11:03 pm
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Default Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids

Originally Posted by brissybee
From my understanding of today's British press, the details are being announced tomorrow and implemented next month.

It seems just under 19k GBP is the minimum income for a Brit wanting to bring in a foreign spouse.

Considering most stay at home child carers are women, let's call it what it is...

Sexist discrimination agains British born women who marry foreign nationals and want to go home.

It certainly screws my plans.
I've been looking at this and it's going to get challenged for sure. UN human rights say you have a right to return to your homeland and not be put into exile and I don't see how the British government can subscribe to these principles while making their own citizens get divorced if they want to return.
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Old Jun 11th 2012, 11:46 pm
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I've been looking at this and it's going to get challenged for sure. UN human rights say you have a right to return to your homeland and not be put into exile and I don't see how the British government can subscribe to these principles while making their own citizens get divorced if they want to return.
Politicians can, and will, do anything if they think it will win them votes
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Old Jun 11th 2012, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by nun
Politicians can, and will, do anything if they think it will win them votes
They can try, but they can be challenged.
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Old Jun 11th 2012, 11:52 pm
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Default Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids

Originally Posted by Sally Redux
the tide of the thousands of foreign murderers, rapists and thieves who freely walk our streets
Yep just insert your bogeyman adjective of choice for "foreigner". It works for anything

the tide of the thousands of curly haired murderers, rapists and thieves who freely walk our streets.

I admire the scope of the Mail's bigotry, at least the Nazis were more specific.

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Old Jun 11th 2012, 11:54 pm
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They can try, but they can be challenged.
Well I would say the ballot box is the only avenue to change things, but I don't hold out much chance of repeal under Labour. The courts won't change a thing, certainly not international courts.

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Yep just insert your bogeyman adjective of choice for "foreigner". It works for anything
the tide of the thousands of one-legged murderers, rapists and thieves who freely hop our streets
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Default Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids

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Well I would say the ballot box is the only avenue to change things and I don't hold out much chance of repeal under Labour. The courts won't change a thing, certainly not international courts.
I agree about Labour, they proved that 1997-2010. But an individual could challenge the government, or a group of them.
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Originally Posted by calliope
I agree about Labour, they proved that 1997-2010. But an individual could challenge the government, or a group of them.
Going to take a lot of money...or a lot of bad press and as it seems that people in the UK don't seem to understand these changes, or more likely they don't care because it doesn't affect them, it's unlikely, because there's not much one can do when one isn't in the country.
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Default Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids

Originally Posted by babsi
Question: Is the income based on what the UK citizen earns? It doesn't make any difference what the spouse earns?

And if anyone has any info about Belgium, I would be really interested in that.
Try a site like belgium.angloinfo.com. It's a good starting place, at least. But it doesn't really matter where you move to in the EU or EEA as long as you start there, with your foreign born spouse, work for a year and then just come back to Britain, - oh yes, apply for an EEA family permit first AND remember to get your foreign born spouse to get their residency card/permit once they get here - under EU rules rather than British immigration rules.

Belgium looks okay. Personally I would rather live somewhere like Sweden, Denmark or Norway. One may as well live in comfort if one is going into temporary exile in order to be able to afford to come back to the UK. In any event, they all have excellent TV shows (e.g. The Bridge, The Killing, Wallander, that other political one, the name escapes me just now) - it would be nice to understand them in their native tongues :-)

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Default Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids

Originally Posted by Bob
Going to take a lot of money...or a lot of bad press and as it seems that people in the UK don't seem to understand these changes, or more likely they don't care because it doesn't affect them, it's unlikely, because there's not much one can do when one isn't in the country.
There's plenty people abroad can do. Move first to Europe and come back under EU rules. No fees for the Home Office , no income or asset tests, and serve them right. I think they have a cheek, applying tests to British citizens that wouldn't be allowed by the EU to be applied to any other European citizen, including any British people who live in Europe.

It's not necessary to go to a non English speaking country first, though I can think of several I would love to live in for a year or two. Ireland will do. A pesky matter of very little work over there though. At least in places like Germany, Norway Sweden and the like, there probably are work opportunities for skilled English speaking people who are prepared to learn the local language.
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Originally Posted by Deb568
There's plenty people abroad can do. Move first to Europe and come back under EU rules. No fees for the Home Office , no income or asset tests, and serve them right. I think they have a cheek, applying tests to British citizens that wouldn't be allowed by the EU to be applied to any other European citizen, including any British people who live in Europe.

It's not necessary to go to a non English speaking country first, though I can think of several I would love to live in for a year or two. Ireland will do. A pesky matter of very little work over there though. At least in places like Germany, Norway Sweden and the like, there probably are work opportunities for skilled English speaking people who are prepared to learn the local language.
I was talking with regards to mounting a legal case to challenge this.

Heading back to the UK, via the EU, which is viable, would take to long for anyone to get to the UK to challenge this ruling to make much difference as it'll all be forgotten about in a years time.
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the tide of the thousands of miming murderers, rapists and thieves who freely pretend to walk against the wind and get stuck in glass boxes in our streets
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Default Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids

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moaning that they might not be able to afford to bring their family home?
How caring of you.

That just about sums you up.
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