Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
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Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
Originally Posted by JAJ
The English language requirement has just been introduced for spouses of British citizens seeking naturalisation (for those applying from 28 July 2004).
certainly a bit of a pain isn't it then....and with these requirements, surprising how come a lot of people don't have a decent grasp of the English language...I don't mean to be rude or cause trouble with that, but it's something I've noticed, certainly with some second/third generation immigrant familys at least.
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Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
Originally Posted by Bob
Cheers for that...
certainly a bit of a pain isn't it then....and with these requirements, surprising how come a lot of people don't have a decent grasp of the English language...I don't mean to be rude or cause trouble with that, but it's something I've noticed, certainly with some second/third generation immigrant familys at least.
certainly a bit of a pain isn't it then....and with these requirements, surprising how come a lot of people don't have a decent grasp of the English language...I don't mean to be rude or cause trouble with that, but it's something I've noticed, certainly with some second/third generation immigrant familys at least.
Most naturalisation applicants who are *not* married to British citizens - leaving aside refugees - have come in to the UK under ancestry visas or work permits and hence would usually need English in their day to day lives.
For spouses, in my opinion it's a little late to demand functional English at naturalisation stage. Those looking to sponsor spouses for settlement in the UK should be prepared to either prove that the spouse can speak English, or pre-pay sufficient English language tuition before the spouse can be granted a visa in the first place.
Jeremy
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Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
Originally Posted by JAJ
Unfortunately it's entirely possible for someone to be sponsored to live in Britain as a spouse without having any grasp of English.
Most naturalisation applicants who are *not* married to British citizens - leaving aside refugees - have come in to the UK under ancestry visas or work permits and hence would usually need English in their day to day lives.
For spouses, in my opinion it's a little late to demand functional English at naturalisation stage. Those looking to sponsor spouses for settlement in the UK should be prepared to either prove that the spouse can speak English, or pre-pay sufficient English language tuition before the spouse can be granted a visa in the first place.
Jeremy
Most naturalisation applicants who are *not* married to British citizens - leaving aside refugees - have come in to the UK under ancestry visas or work permits and hence would usually need English in their day to day lives.
For spouses, in my opinion it's a little late to demand functional English at naturalisation stage. Those looking to sponsor spouses for settlement in the UK should be prepared to either prove that the spouse can speak English, or pre-pay sufficient English language tuition before the spouse can be granted a visa in the first place.
Jeremy
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Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
Originally Posted by JAJ
For spouses, in my opinion it's a little late to demand functional English at naturalisation stage. Those looking to sponsor spouses for settlement in the UK should be prepared to either prove that the spouse can speak English, or pre-pay sufficient English language tuition before the spouse can be granted a visa in the first place.
#20
Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
Originally Posted by simbacat
I hope 12 years of living and working in the UK is good enough, not to forget I would have to learn the national anthem. Or would be a John redwood impression be good enough? (his impression of theWelsh anthem is a treat)!!
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Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
Originally Posted by simbacat
I hope 12 years of living and working in the UK is good enough, not to forget I would have to learn the national anthem.
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind...quirement.html
Apparently they do plan to add further categories of people to the list of designated persons in section 2. If they're tardy about doing this, you can always write to your MP and ask that he raises the issue with the Home Secretary. This may prompt them to expand the list of acceptable persons for section 2.
By the way - if you're German you need to have been formally granted Indefinite Leave to Remain in order to apply for naturalisation. Since 2 Oct 2000, citizens of other EEA countries (other than Irish citizens) are not normally considered to be permanent residents of the UK unless they apply for and obtain that status.
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind..._economic.html
(start from section 9)
Jeremy
Last edited by JAJ; Sep 19th 2004 at 12:26 am.
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Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
Originally Posted by SandyW
Hello there
I will make this as short as possible, I was born in Germany (still have my German passport), I am married to a British citizen and for now, we live in the
USA (he is in the US Military).
I know Germany is a member of the EU/EEA (European Union/European Economic Area) so I do not need to apply for 'entry clearance' to work or live in the UK, but I was wondering if I can apply for my British citizenship while we are still living in the US?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
I will make this as short as possible, I was born in Germany (still have my German passport), I am married to a British citizen and for now, we live in the
USA (he is in the US Military).
I know Germany is a member of the EU/EEA (European Union/European Economic Area) so I do not need to apply for 'entry clearance' to work or live in the UK, but I was wondering if I can apply for my British citizenship while we are still living in the US?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
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Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
Originally Posted by BerlinGal
Why bother with the British citizenship???? As a German you can live and work in the UK without a permit or anything. The only things you need are a bank account and a National Insurance no.
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Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
She also made the very valid point that she would become a British citizen because of the sense of commitment and the feeling of belonging. This is a very significant issue for a lot of people, and one that goes beyond the mere ease or otherwise of working or living in a foreign country with or without visas etc.
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Re: Born in Germany,married to a British citizen
Originally Posted by CPW
She also made the very valid point that she would become a British citizen because of the sense of commitment and the feeling of belonging. This is a very significant issue for a lot of people, and one that goes beyond the mere ease or otherwise of working or living in a foreign country with or without visas etc.
A naturalised British citizen can leave the UK and always return - a person from another EEA state who has been resident in the UK can only return if there has been no change in the immigration laws to curtail this meanwhile.
The stricter immigration controls that Australia imposed on New Zealand citizens in 2001 are a case in point.
Jeremy