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Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

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Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

Old Jan 25th 2014, 5:19 pm
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Old Jan 25th 2014, 7:50 pm
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for 10 billion pounds maybe
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Old Jan 25th 2014, 9:21 pm
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Why do you ask?
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Old Jan 26th 2014, 6:19 am
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Why do you ask?
why not?
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Old Jan 26th 2014, 6:39 am
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Default Re: Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

When something like 99% of the population want to be British then no can be the only answer.
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Old Jan 26th 2014, 7:05 am
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Default Re: Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

No,

simple as that, we we're strong once and hopefully can be strong again? there was a reason why we have such islands etc

unless they can give the UK 100 billion but no chance we ain't giving up these islands.
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Default Re: Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

It's not Britain's to give. Simple as that really, it belongs to the people of the Falklands.
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 1:26 am
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It's not Britain's to give. Simple as that really, it belongs to the people of the Falklands.
Not a chance
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Default Re: Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

If it were large enough to be autonomous, life might be easier all round - but it's very arguably not. Anyway, it's a British dependent territory at the moment.

Rule of law wins over self-interest; it's on the UN's decolonisation list, and should be permitted to run through that process just like so many former British territories that self-interest would really have preferred us to keep hold of. The history's murky enough that the outcome of that isn't really obvious.
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Default Re: Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

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Rule of law wins over self-interest
Not these days it doesn't. If it did, there wouldn't ever have been British troops in Iraq or Afghanistan! It's an axiom of international politics that nations don't have principles, only national interests.
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Old Jan 28th 2014, 10:14 am
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Default Re: Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

It was a moral statement, not a declaration of how the would actually works all the time. .

And states are constrained to acting against their national self-interest all the time. It's just harder to make the bigger ones fall in line; which is why we'll probably never see Blair in the Hague. Doesn't mean we should stop trying to arrest him if we see him in the streets, though.
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Default Re: Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

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Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

Considering Britain colonized it before Argentina even existed as a nation should be enough of an answer.

Little fact left out from the other side of the argument.
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Considering Britain colonized it before Argentina even existed as a nation should be enough of an answer. Little fact left out from the other side of the argument.
Ah, well, if we're going to be technical... the "Britain" that claimed it in 1833 was not the same nation as the "Britain" of today. That earlier Britain included the whole of Ireland. Argentina could argue that the Britain of today doesn't have any legal right to negotiate.

No, I'm afraid it comes down to "might is right" - and by that measure the UK (as presently constituted) is the legitimate ruler! This link here is both relevant and interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkla...eignty_dispute
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Default Re: Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

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Considering Britain colonized it before Argentina even existed as a nation should be enough of an answer.
That's subject to debate, Argentina gained independence in 1816 and did have a settlement there, until the Americans got rid of it 15 years later because it was interfering with their fishers. So the UK then took control of the islands again in 1833. Prior to that they had changed hands various times. But technically speaking when Argentina became a country, the islands were under their sovereignty and they lost them to the UK.

The obvious answer is missing from the poll - independence. If the oil reserves turn out to be as large as people are hoping, they'll be swimming in money and I have no doubt large numbers of people will then move there. The Falklands are nearly as large as Northern Ireland, so it's not unrealistic for them to become an independent country. They could easily pay for the Royal Navy or whoever to secure them.
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Default Re: Should Britain give the Falkland Islands to Argentina

The only thing that argues for the Falklands to belong to Argentina is what's called "the geographical imperative" - that islands rightly belong to the major nation they're closest to. There are plenty of examples around the world arguing for and against that position. Arguing against is that the people who live there have British ancestors.

Oh, and the axiom that possession is nine points of the law, of course! That's conclusive, most of the time.

Oh, and the other axiom that "might is right".
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