Gay Marriage
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Gay Marriage
Our Chief Justice has just legalised gay marriage in Cayman, by ruling our local constitution incompatible with our human-rights obligations. Our Governor approves of the ruling, as does the UK Foreign & Commonwealth Office (which is our colonial master), but all 19 of our elected legislators disapprove, and are appealing against the ruling. Fun and games!
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Re: Gay Marriage
Something similar happened here. The legal community said they left the islands govt not aligned with its international treaty? obligations too, and still open to being challenged but they are still the laws. I believe the current position is that all gay activities are outlawed let alone marriage, and any public acts of affection are likely to get one into trouble with locals let alone the law, but under cover there is a ‘gay scene’ here i am told.
https://www.nowgrenada.com/2016/10/no-sex-marriage/
https://www.nowgrenada.com/2016/10/no-sex-marriage/
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Our Chief Justice has just legalised gay marriage in Cayman, by ruling our local constitution incompatible with our human-rights obligations. Our Governor approves of the ruling, as does the UK Foreign & Commonwealth Office (which is our colonial master), but all 19 of our elected legislators disapprove, and are appealing against the ruling. Fun and games!
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It's coming whether the MLAs like it or not. Some of the rhetoric and tub-thumping has been a sight to behold and some of the comments in the CNS have been quite incredible. UK ex-pats take same sex marriage and gay rights in their stride. It was expecting a lot for an island like Cayman to just go along with it. It would reflect very poorly on the UK if this wasn't implemented.
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Maybe the church doesn't want to concede the influence it has on politics, even at a local level. With Jamaica to look up to for successfully resisting gay rights they no doubt think the status quo can be maintained even if the laws change. If the argument that they lose a fortune in tourist dollars doesn't move them, the argument for equal rights on humanistic principles won't.
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Maybe the church doesn't want to concede the influence it has on politics, even at a local level. With Jamaica to look up to for successfully resisting gay rights they no doubt think the status quo can be maintained even if the laws change. If the argument that they lose a fortune in tourist dollars doesn't move them, the argument for equal rights on humanistic principles won't.
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Well, I think most people here - most voters, say - actually do distinguish between "gay rights" and "gay marriage". After all, it's only a very recent development in the Western World, to include the right to marry in amongst all the rights of gays and all the other GLBTQ+++ members of Western societies. I doubt if there would/will be all that many GLBTQ+++ individuals will boycott any cruise ship that calls here.
The people who have a stake in success or failure of this appeal of the court's ruling aren't tourists, but the people who live there and can't marry their partners, as represented by the couple that brought it to court in the first place. At least the Caymans is in the news for something other than criminal money laundering or being a refuge for tax dodgers..
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Re: Gay Marriage
Here, any homosexual act is illegal, including marriage. Heck its against the law to wear clothing of another gender, and the police enforce that at carnival. Possibly more interesting - ive seen a few videos of outed homosexuals being burned/stoned to death in africa, not quite so bad here, but they risk a beating if anyone sees something, so clearly the politicians know where the votes are in this case.
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Re: Gay Marriage
So it's about more than just the Sodom-and-Gomorrah foolishness.
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Re: Gay Marriage
Well, civil partnership- or the redefining of marriage to include those partnerships is one thing, that makes sense, but actually gay marriage requires the clergy to agree, nothing to do with law.
Here, any politician or clergyman suggesting that is going to hell - i mean now, at the ballot box, and with their flock, i make no comment on any actual afterlife.
Here, any politician or clergyman suggesting that is going to hell - i mean now, at the ballot box, and with their flock, i make no comment on any actual afterlife.
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Well the Domestic Partnership Bill has been sunk by our MLAs, and some of the rhetoric has been quite incredible, particularly from the health minister Dwayne Seymour and his assertion that women are at their ahem....horniest ....during a full moon and that is the best time to procreate and repopulate Cayman. How he said that with a straight face I will never know. The best thing to come out of this is that the UK are now in a position to implement the original same sex marriage legislation. I predict riots in the streets and the end of civilisation as Cayman knows it