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Old Oct 10th 2019, 9:57 am
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Yesterday around 70 people we discovered locked in small cages in Trinidad, in the compound of a local pastor.His excuse sounded a little bit like Victorian Britain, he was keeping the people captive because he was running a private to mental institution he said. Actually i suspect from the news, he was being paid by relatives to make Grandparents and awkward relatives disappear and use them as slaves for agricultural purposes while being paid a fee and also coercing his captives into giving access to the funds. His workers have been accused of torture and worse.Naturally the modern slavery unit in the trade that police force acted once they had evidence.

So next time somebody tells you about the bad old times and what colonialists did to them, remind them that they’re now doing it to their own, and those times are still here.
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Old Nov 5th 2019, 6:43 pm
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Yesterday around 70 people we discovered locked in small cages in Trinidad, in the compound of a local pastor.His excuse sounded a little bit like Victorian Britain, he was keeping the people captive because he was running a private to mental institution he said. Actually i suspect from the news, he was being paid by relatives to make Grandparents and awkward relatives disappear and use them as slaves for agricultural purposes while being paid a fee and also coercing his captives into giving access to the funds. His workers have been accused of torture and worse.
Here's a useful link to a report on the modern slave-trade. In the Caribbean it's common to import domestic servants from faraway places, bonded to specified employers. During my forty years in Cayman it's been flourishing under the heading of "indentured labour", with "Work Permits" being traded on the side. (It's become rather better in recent times, but it still goes on.) And not only in Cayman, of course. Our Laws require that the indentured servants must speak English, but a few corrupt Immigration clerks manage to get around this easily. The UK government knows it goes on, but doesn't seem to care.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50228549
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Happens in the UK as well. Last week saw the end of a criminal case when a group in Glasgow were convicted of selling Slovakian women. Cash changed hands on Sauchiehall Street.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49813942

Pot and kettle ? Let us focus on matters within our jurisdiction before pointing the finger !
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Old Nov 7th 2019, 3:17 am
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Originally Posted by scot47
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49813942

Pot and kettle ? Let us focus on matters within our jurisdiction before pointing the finger !
Fair enough, scot - but Cayman is a British colony still, so technically we are in your jurisdiction. What to do, eh?
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Do you need support

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Clearly the solution to the BBC article is to leave the EU [ducks head awaiting incoming]

This is not an indigenous british problem - well not for the last few hundred years. Clearly the issue in some countries is the linking of a temporary right to reside, with having a specific job, i’m all for the former where the workers are useful but you need them to bu...er off at the end of that period or if they become a burdon on the country and that must be enforced by someone, they need to be made to leave which doesnt happen in the uk.
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I know this

lets put together a conclusion

iam with you.
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Originally Posted by Yorkey
Do you need support
It's a nice thought,Yorkey, but the whole indentured-labour thing exists (at least in the British colonies) with the blessing of the UK's Foreign & Commonwealth Office. Cayman is the regional HQ of MI6: that fact came out clearly in a court case ten years or so ago. So it suits the the FCO to give the local politicians their heads when it comes to exploiting cheap-labour migrants. I was on our local human-rights committee many years ago, but quit as a last resort in the hope that the publicity that accompanied my quitting would change things, but it didn't.

On the positive side, it has to be taken into account that our migrants are a whole lot better off here financially than they would be back home in India, Jamaica, etc. And with labour unions implicitly banned, there is no practical likelihood of reform. I tried to get the ILO (International Labour Organisation) interested, but they didn't want to know. Maybe MI6 had a quiet word. We'll never know.
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So Cayman is ho,me to MI6 Regional HQ ? Not much chance of Independence then !
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So Cayman is home to MI6 Regional HQ ? Not much chance of Independence then !
You would think not, although they ("They"!) did switch from Bahamas to Cayman back in the '70s smoothly enough.

But there is actually not the slightest wish for independence here, from the local populace. Everybody knows that our wealth derives from our offshore-tax-haven status, and that would disappear if we weren't protected by the British flag. Tourism is very much a secondary source of wealth.
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