One year and expected to work 24/7 365 days
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Re: One year and expected to work 24/7 365 days
... but is that page promoted to employee's or employer's? It's the first I or anybody else I know knew of it. It was only by chance I found it embedded within another employment website. If you don't know about it or have to wait for the appeals process then the damage is done as you're not going to get the job for which you're being referenced. They only have to say you were fired not what for - and employers will read between the lines. As you can legally be fired for not being liked it is not hard to ruin someone's career.
The registration process on the page for employers does not require a business number, which it should do for such registrations and the security protocols for govt. employee services are very strict, much stricter than that.
Employers are bound by privacy laws and have a duty of care with the employee information they hold, no matter what the circumstances. It would be foolish of an employer to publish such information on a website for the world to see. Employers already put the information required into a record of employment. Reporting an employee on this site for an offence that was not prosecuted by law and a conviction obtained would be very risky.
The govt have an anti fraud centre, if you have the patience to try and get through and check it out The govt again are putting lip service to the fight against fraud, but make it hard for one to do, so most likely don't bother.
Report an incident
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Re: One year and expected to work 24/7 365 days
Our maintenance guy is expected to be available 24/7, I kind of feel bad for him since he isn't salary, and they complain when he works OT, he just can't win.
I agree with Aviator, no way that website is a government one.
Looking up government domains on who is, you can tell the difference right away, the government websites are not hiding who they are.
The known government sites I checked all have admin contact in the government complete with phone number, email and address, and a technical contact with full contact info.
That website is hiding who they are, and the quality is somewhat poor and I see no French option which obviously would be there if it were a government website on the federal level like its trying to copy.
I agree with Aviator, no way that website is a government one.
Looking up government domains on who is, you can tell the difference right away, the government websites are not hiding who they are.
The known government sites I checked all have admin contact in the government complete with phone number, email and address, and a technical contact with full contact info.
That website is hiding who they are, and the quality is somewhat poor and I see no French option which obviously would be there if it were a government website on the federal level like its trying to copy.
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Re: One year and expected to work 24/7 365 days
It appears it is not a legitimate website. Service Canada, CRA, WCB BC know nothing about it.
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I did point this out in post #103...
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Since you posted that I've been called by 2 banks in GTA checking if I'm interested in senior positions - paying between 58 - 72k. They want seniors but only willing to pay developer rates. The rates you quote are what I saw last year but this year much lower.
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Whoever owns the website, which you can find out from Home | Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA) They appear to use Netfirms as their host.
Sue them for defamation.
Sue them for defamation.
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Re: One year and expected to work 24/7 365 days
Whoever owns the website, which you can find out from Home | Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA) They appear to use Netfirms as their host.
Sue them for defamation.
Sue them for defamation.
One possibly could sue for libel, but only if any information was proven to be false and would depend on the information made public. There could be a privacy issue, again depending on what employee information was disclosed and if the employer failed in their duty of care.
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Re: One year and expected to work 24/7 365 days
..more enquiries from an insurer who needs a project manager for under 70k and a bank who wants a release manager for under 60k. Thank God I've been able to leave IT as all I can see is salaries crashing. Both of these would have been 90 and beyond last year.
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For my job I am right above the median of 12/hour by a buck, so I can't complain too much since I am more or less topped out in my industry.
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I really think there's a better life to be had from working in computers than by setting up a rooming house, not least because the neighbours will eventually object to all those unwashed and damaged illegals in the basement and garage. Still there's no reason why one could not bring home a hundred grand from programming and set up bunk beds in the chicken coop; eventually one wouldn't even have to live in the slum one had created!
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I really think there's a better life to be had from working in computers than by setting up a rooming house, not least because the neighbours will eventually object to all those unwashed and damaged illegals in the basement and garage. Still there's no reason why one could not bring home a hundred grand from programming and set up bunk beds in the chicken coop; eventually one wouldn't even have to live in the slum one had created!
Homestay students are not illegals - they are permitted by Canadian education authorities and have visa's and bring much needed money to Canada. There are regular checks to monitor living conditions. I'm sure when you say illegals you are actually referring to their race and nationality and that certainly does not mean they are unwashed and damaged.
I make over 30k with homestay students and top that up with consultancy work for UK and Chinese IT companies which takes my earnings way above the salaries on offer locally - even the 100k you quote for programmers which I'm not. You only need to go to salary.com, glassdoor.ca, monster.ca and other surveys to find programmers earn way less than you quote. Average salary for programmers is 50-60k.
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I've no idea what race or nationality the people stacked in your basement may be. I think it's usual to exploit people from one's home country so I'd guess many of them come from the same place as you but that could be anywhere. Three extra rooms, some unknown number of occupants, no mention of any additional bathrooms; I'll revise "unwashed" to "hygenically challenged".
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I've no idea what race or nationality the people stacked in your basement may be. I think it's usual to exploit people from one's home country so I'd guess many of them come from the same place as you but that could be anywhere. Three extra rooms, some unknown number of occupants, no mention of any additional bathrooms; I'll revise "unwashed" to "hygenically challenged".
You should have left it at you had no idea because you don't. You admit your assumption is you believe the occupants are from anywhere but Canada (otherwise how are they illegals?) Your comments were aimed at other nationalities. 3 en-suite rooms is what achieves 3300 per month and that is what we have. The rooms are checked by local education authorities who are guardians of the students.
As for exploitation don't you boast several times on this thread how tough you are making people work very long hours without pay and even fired someone for not answering the phone whilst driving? You seem offended by the fact I found a way not to be exploited by the very methods you use. You are probably one of the recruiters who looks for new immigrants to exploit and don't want somebody like me telling the rest of the Brits what my real experiences were in Canada.
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