Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
#361
Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
I had neither in the country. We have a meter now but it's not reducing any tendency to drought, there's a gap in the logic that says they do.
I can't say that parched earth is something I noticed when last in the UK, Belfast, in particular, seemed adequately dampened. Perhaps the problem is not a shortage of measuring devices but, as Alan2005 suggests, a lack of reservoirs combined with an inefficent delivery system; leaky pipes everywhere.
I can't say that parched earth is something I noticed when last in the UK, Belfast, in particular, seemed adequately dampened. Perhaps the problem is not a shortage of measuring devices but, as Alan2005 suggests, a lack of reservoirs combined with an inefficent delivery system; leaky pipes everywhere.
#362
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Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
I had neither in the country. We have a meter now but it's not reducing any tendency to drought, there's a gap in the logic that says they do.
I can't say that parched earth is something I noticed when last in the UK, Belfast, in particular, seemed adequately dampened. Perhaps the problem is not a shortage of measuring devices but, as Alan2005 suggests, a lack of reservoirs combined with an inefficent delivery system; leaky pipes everywhere.
I can't say that parched earth is something I noticed when last in the UK, Belfast, in particular, seemed adequately dampened. Perhaps the problem is not a shortage of measuring devices but, as Alan2005 suggests, a lack of reservoirs combined with an inefficent delivery system; leaky pipes everywhere.
Alan is right. Back in the 90s, I did a consulting job for Ofwat on trends in garden watering. The privatised water companies were trying to blame water shortages on gardeners. The real reason was that they didn't want to spend huge amounts of money fixing the leaky infrastructure. As I recall, leakage rates in some parts of the UK were as high as 70%.
#363
Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
I'm not sure how old that article you quoted from is, or how out of touch it is, but water meters are now put in as a matter of course whenever somebody moves. So when we moved in to our house in April, a water meter was installed, ditto for our previous home 6 years previously. It's now the norm for people to have a water meter, and I don't think I know anybody without one.
It seems to be a third with a government target to have most homes with a meter by 2020.
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Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
To be honest I have not been back to the UK since I arrived here in 1988.
Im thinking of going back for a vacation will I be in for a shock or a pleasant surprise? Maybe some of you could answer the following question?
Is it still about a 3 hour drive from Preston to London M6 M1 route
Is Tony Blackburn still a DJ on radio 1
Are hollands pies and steak puddings still as good
Will I be able to rent a Ford Capri and park it safely in Liverpool
Are Pans People, Hot Gossip and Hills Angels doing dance routines
Can I still go for a donkey ride on Blackpool beach
Im guessing with inflation that petrol is now about 3 quid a gallon
Can I still buy a 5 pound bag of spuds and a quarter of roast beef
Liverpool won the league in the 89-90 season have they won it since
Is it still safe to walk around Moss Side after dark
Are Londoners still warm and friendly to Northerners much like the GTA folk in Canada
Are there still only 4 TV channels
or am I really out of touch
Im thinking of going back for a vacation will I be in for a shock or a pleasant surprise? Maybe some of you could answer the following question?
Is it still about a 3 hour drive from Preston to London M6 M1 route
Is Tony Blackburn still a DJ on radio 1
Are hollands pies and steak puddings still as good
Will I be able to rent a Ford Capri and park it safely in Liverpool
Are Pans People, Hot Gossip and Hills Angels doing dance routines
Can I still go for a donkey ride on Blackpool beach
Im guessing with inflation that petrol is now about 3 quid a gallon
Can I still buy a 5 pound bag of spuds and a quarter of roast beef
Liverpool won the league in the 89-90 season have they won it since
Is it still safe to walk around Moss Side after dark
Are Londoners still warm and friendly to Northerners much like the GTA folk in Canada
Are there still only 4 TV channels
or am I really out of touch
#365
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Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
I'm not sure how old that article you quoted from is, or how out of touch it is, but water meters are now put in as a matter of course whenever somebody moves. So when we moved in to our house in April, a water meter was installed, ditto for our previous home 6 years previously. It's now the norm for people to have a water meter, and I don't think I know anybody without one.
Of course, if you find anything positive about the UK, the above rules don't apply.
#366
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Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
There was hose pipe ban in 76. There was also a serious water shortage in yorkshire (of all places) in the mid 90's. They had to ship truck loads of water from elsewhere - I think 1000's of them. I also remember the head of yorkshire water saying he could have a complete wash with a tea cup of water or something which caused outrage at the time.
Anyways:-
1 - I had a water meter in the UK; I do not have one here and I'm on city water (which is unusual for where I live, but a definite plus)
2 - If you have low population density you end up with lots of people using well water - I consider wells to be a much bigger pita than an occasional hose pipe ban.
Anyways:-
1 - I had a water meter in the UK; I do not have one here and I'm on city water (which is unusual for where I live, but a definite plus)
2 - If you have low population density you end up with lots of people using well water - I consider wells to be a much bigger pita than an occasional hose pipe ban.
#367
Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
Careful - apparently you're not allowed to use google...since you don't currently live in the UK. Any official statistics or news articles that you find online are not actually valid...since you don't currently live in the UK. Also, you're not allowed to obtain information from friends and relatives in the UK...since you don't currently live in the UK (even though your friends and relatives do currently live in the UK). Any information or opinions obtained that way are not valid...since you don't currently live in the UK (even though your friends and relatives do currently live in the UK). Even if you visit the UK or take an extended trip to the UK long enough to feel like you're living there again, and obtain information there and see things with your own eyes, that's not valid either...since you don't currently live in the UK. Also all previous experience you've ever had of the UK is also not valid even if you've spent most of your life there...since you don't currently live in the UK.
Of course, if you find anything positive about the UK, the above rules don't apply.
Of course, if you find anything positive about the UK, the above rules don't apply.
And being deliberately antagonistic and trying to provoke others *could* be misconstrued as trolling. Just sayin'.
#368
Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
As I mentioned, it's now standard for a water meter to be fitted whenever a new owner takes over a water bill, and of course an owner can request one at any time and it will be installed for free. And if an area is declared to be one of 'low water supply', then the relevant company that supplies it installs water meters anyway.
I've now completely forgotten the point of the water meter debate anyway, but hey!
#369
Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
Really? Isn't it the water meter penetration rate the second thing one notices on visiting the UK? Right after being knifed by feral youths who'd be on strike if they'd troubled to take a job in the first place.
#370
Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
Something to do with a brick in the cistern and shower sharing wasn't it?
#371
Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
If it was to do with shower sharing, then I may just be interested again.
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Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
There was hose pipe ban in 76. There was also a serious water shortage in yorkshire (of all places) in the mid 90's. They had to ship truck loads of water from elsewhere - I think 1000's of them. I also remember the head of yorkshire water saying he could have a complete wash with a tea cup of water or something which caused outrage at the time.
Anyways:-
1 - I had a water meter in the UK; I do not have one here and I'm on city water (which is unusual for where I live, but a definite plus)
2 - If you have low population density you end up with lots of people using well water - I consider wells to be a much bigger pita than an occasional hose pipe ban.
Anyways:-
1 - I had a water meter in the UK; I do not have one here and I'm on city water (which is unusual for where I live, but a definite plus)
2 - If you have low population density you end up with lots of people using well water - I consider wells to be a much bigger pita than an occasional hose pipe ban.
I live in Yorkshire (born and bred in the toon tho hence the username) and you are right there was a shortage and we ended up with a hosepipe ban. Can't remember when it was but I was in the house before this one so it was between the years of 2000-2007. We were not on a meter in that house either!
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Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
To be honest I have not been back to the UK since I arrived here in 1988.
Im thinking of going back for a vacation will I be in for a shock or a pleasant surprise? Maybe some of you could answer the following question?
Is it still about a 3 hour drive from Preston to London M6 M1 route
Is Tony Blackburn still a DJ on radio 1
Are hollands pies and steak puddings still as good
Will I be able to rent a Ford Capri and park it safely in Liverpool
Are Pans People, Hot Gossip and Hills Angels doing dance routines
Can I still go for a donkey ride on Blackpool beach
Im guessing with inflation that petrol is now about 3 quid a gallon
Can I still buy a 5 pound bag of spuds and a quarter of roast beef
Liverpool won the league in the 89-90 season have they won it since
Is it still safe to walk around Moss Side after dark
Are Londoners still warm and friendly to Northerners much like the GTA folk in Canada
Are there still only 4 TV channels
or am I really out of touch
Im thinking of going back for a vacation will I be in for a shock or a pleasant surprise? Maybe some of you could answer the following question?
Is it still about a 3 hour drive from Preston to London M6 M1 route
Is Tony Blackburn still a DJ on radio 1
Are hollands pies and steak puddings still as good
Will I be able to rent a Ford Capri and park it safely in Liverpool
Are Pans People, Hot Gossip and Hills Angels doing dance routines
Can I still go for a donkey ride on Blackpool beach
Im guessing with inflation that petrol is now about 3 quid a gallon
Can I still buy a 5 pound bag of spuds and a quarter of roast beef
Liverpool won the league in the 89-90 season have they won it since
Is it still safe to walk around Moss Side after dark
Are Londoners still warm and friendly to Northerners much like the GTA folk in Canada
Are there still only 4 TV channels
or am I really out of touch
#374
Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
With me the first thing is the green. Seen from the air, London's very green. But then, I haven't been there since the summer, not since before The Dustbowl.
#375
Re: Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
Unfortunately, since you don't currently live in the UK, you won't be able to find the answers to these questions. You could try the internet - but that's not valid apparently since you don't live in the UK. You could "phone a friend" in the UK, but that's not a valid source of information either apparently. You could visit the UK and see for yourself, but because you don't actually live in the UK, that's not valid either apparently. Apparently there is no way for you to ever know the answers to your questions unless you go back to live in the UK permanently.