Your observations when visiting UK from Canada !
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Well I would hardly say that I am old and decrepit being in my late twenties
I don't think you have to be old and boring to want to live in Canada but perhaps are just seeking a more laid back life. I just find the UK is on a slippery slope and it just doesn't appear to be getting better....and yes I am one of them people who wants to give their children a better childhood. They are made to grow up too quick here.
We are also so over crowded it said in the paper that we are now more congested than China I work 13 miles from where I live and it took me an hour and a half to get home tonight...thats an hour and a half I will never see again. I wouldnt mind if it was an occasional thing but everyday I spend at least an hour and a half in traffic for what should be a half hour round journey.........aaahhhhh
So yes the UK does have more cultural things to do for the young.....but judging by the traffic you may well be middle aged before you get there
I don't think you have to be old and boring to want to live in Canada but perhaps are just seeking a more laid back life. I just find the UK is on a slippery slope and it just doesn't appear to be getting better....and yes I am one of them people who wants to give their children a better childhood. They are made to grow up too quick here.
We are also so over crowded it said in the paper that we are now more congested than China I work 13 miles from where I live and it took me an hour and a half to get home tonight...thats an hour and a half I will never see again. I wouldnt mind if it was an occasional thing but everyday I spend at least an hour and a half in traffic for what should be a half hour round journey.........aaahhhhh
So yes the UK does have more cultural things to do for the young.....but judging by the traffic you may well be middle aged before you get there
This puzzles me:
"I am one of them people who wants to give their children a better childhood. They are made to grow up too quick here."
it's often enough cited to be a cliche, but what does it mean?
#257
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...han-China.html
Link above from one of todays papers. I am not a population expert I'm afraid so I really couldnt tell you the fluctuations of Chinas population but I gather if we are now being told that we are more congested than them then I gather its because at some point they were more congested than us....
Congestion = Crowded, busy..
Before anyone says I am moaning about the immigrants, I'm not. I'm more concerned with the traffic....
Link above from one of todays papers. I am not a population expert I'm afraid so I really couldnt tell you the fluctuations of Chinas population but I gather if we are now being told that we are more congested than them then I gather its because at some point they were more congested than us....
Congestion = Crowded, busy..
Before anyone says I am moaning about the immigrants, I'm not. I'm more concerned with the traffic....
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There's a lot of nonsense about population density. Really - who gives a shit - if you want low density, you can find it in both the UK and Canada, ditto for the opposite.
#263
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I wouldn't take anything seriously on that map - FFS, they can't even get the shapes of the countries right.
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I really dont see why you feel the need to be so negative about people who are thinking of moving to Canada for whatever reason. People come to these forums hoping for some informative advice from people who have been in their situation and I dont expect all of it to be rosy but then you dont expect people to try and belittle every little thing you say.
I feel sorry for you that you seem to be clearly so unhappy in your life in Canada and hope you can one day return to England....
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Commuting in the GTA I averaged 11mph, the speed at which President Kennedy was travelling when shot. I often thought that would be a kinder fate than life on the 400 series highways.
This puzzles me:
"I am one of them people who wants to give their children a better childhood. They are made to grow up too quick here."
it's often enough cited to be a cliche, but what does it mean?
This puzzles me:
"I am one of them people who wants to give their children a better childhood. They are made to grow up too quick here."
it's often enough cited to be a cliche, but what does it mean?
I know it is a cliche but it doesn't make it any less true I'm afraid. Maybe all the things you hate about Canada are the same ones that are attracting me. Children over here and in a lot of other places just seem to be growing up too quickly and it has been said that Canada can be like stepping back in time. So if I can take my little boy somewhere where he can be a child for longer, well then thats good enough for me
I know this could probably be true for somewhere in the UK but it will probably be out of my price range I'm afraid
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I think that's fair in many respects. Whether or not it's a blessing is another matter.
Again, I don't know what it means. If you're hoping for some sort of retardation try living in the oil sands.
Again, I don't know what it means. If you're hoping for some sort of retardation try living in the oil sands.
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Again, I don't know what it means. If you're hoping for some sort of retardation try living in the oil sands.[/QUOTE]
Lol..No I am not hoping for some retardation. I guess it goes back to the stepping back in time comment. My childhood was completely different to young cousins of mind who are just entering their early teens. Kids just seem to be so much more aware these days and everything is overly sexualised (im not some crazy puritanacal nun before anyone says anything) but It does worry me that little girsl are now worried about their weight or bra size when they're nine instead of what new toy they'd like.
However I think I may have gone slightly off topic and don't want to bore you all (sorry to those I already have!)
Lol..No I am not hoping for some retardation. I guess it goes back to the stepping back in time comment. My childhood was completely different to young cousins of mind who are just entering their early teens. Kids just seem to be so much more aware these days and everything is overly sexualised (im not some crazy puritanacal nun before anyone says anything) but It does worry me that little girsl are now worried about their weight or bra size when they're nine instead of what new toy they'd like.
However I think I may have gone slightly off topic and don't want to bore you all (sorry to those I already have!)
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Lol..No I am not hoping for some retardation. I guess it goes back to the stepping back in time comment. My childhood was completely different to young cousins of mind who are just entering their early teens. Kids just seem to be so much more aware these days and everything is overly sexualised (im not some crazy puritanacal nun before anyone says anything) but It does worry me that little girsl are now worried about their weight or bra size when they're nine instead of what new toy they'd like.
However I think I may have gone slightly off topic and don't want to bore you all (sorry to those I already have!)
However I think I may have gone slightly off topic and don't want to bore you all (sorry to those I already have!)
I understand your concern since I have, or had, a selection of female children and constantly compared their degree of moral decay with that of their cousins in the UK and in rural Ontario. My children were highly sexually aware at nine, possibly earlier, I recall one at age seven making a comparison to Dirty Dancing and another at age nine or so attending school at Halloween dressed as Peg Bundy. Dirty Dancing and Married with Children both featured overt sexuality though I'd argue that the latter was more benign as it fostered understanding of sexual stereotyping and of irony. That the child's peers understood the Peg Bundy costume suggests that my child was not precocious in her knowledge.
Where did the children acquire their awareness? Well, their promiscuous father must have been a factor but I'd suggest the primary influence was the limited amount of television to which they were exposed. Sexualisation creates markets and so it's in the interests of television sponsors to make children aware as soon as possible; not through direct advertising but by plot themes and product placement. Since the developers of the programs, films and video games from which children derive much of their self-image are multinational, I don't think physical location makes much of a difference.
I think one would be hard pressed to show a difference in degree of sexualisation of children between western countries. You might, however, be able to show a difference correlating to the level of affluence of the family and so indirectly make a case for emigration in this regard.
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This may be the least "on topic" thread evah so I wouldn't worry about drift.
I understand your concern since I have, or had, a selection of female children and constantly compared their degree of moral decay with that of their cousins in the UK and in rural Ontario. My children were highly sexually aware at nine, possibly earlier, I recall one at age seven making a comparison to Dirty Dancing and another at age nine or so attending school at Halloween dressed as Peg Bundy. Dirty Dancing and Married with Children both featured overt sexuality though I'd argue that the latter was more benign as it fostered understanding of sexual stereotyping and of irony. That the child's peers understood the Peg Bundy costume suggests that my child was not precocious in her knowledge.
Where did the children acquire their awareness? Well, their promiscuous father must have been a factor but I'd suggest the primary influence was the limited amount of television to which they were exposed. Sexualisation creates markets and so it's in the interests of television sponsors to make children aware as soon as possible; not through direct advertising but by plot themes and product placement. Since the developers of the programs, films and video games from which children derive much of their self-image are multinational, I don't think physical location makes much of a difference.
I think one would be hard pressed to show a difference in degree of sexualisation of children between western countries. You might, however, be able to show a difference correlating to the level of affluence of the family and so indirectly make a case for emigration in this regard.
I understand your concern since I have, or had, a selection of female children and constantly compared their degree of moral decay with that of their cousins in the UK and in rural Ontario. My children were highly sexually aware at nine, possibly earlier, I recall one at age seven making a comparison to Dirty Dancing and another at age nine or so attending school at Halloween dressed as Peg Bundy. Dirty Dancing and Married with Children both featured overt sexuality though I'd argue that the latter was more benign as it fostered understanding of sexual stereotyping and of irony. That the child's peers understood the Peg Bundy costume suggests that my child was not precocious in her knowledge.
Where did the children acquire their awareness? Well, their promiscuous father must have been a factor but I'd suggest the primary influence was the limited amount of television to which they were exposed. Sexualisation creates markets and so it's in the interests of television sponsors to make children aware as soon as possible; not through direct advertising but by plot themes and product placement. Since the developers of the programs, films and video games from which children derive much of their self-image are multinational, I don't think physical location makes much of a difference.
I think one would be hard pressed to show a difference in degree of sexualisation of children between western countries. You might, however, be able to show a difference correlating to the level of affluence of the family and so indirectly make a case for emigration in this regard.
Yes you are right it is everywhere, which is such a shame. How long have you been in Canada and did your girls grow up there or the UK? Do you like it over there?