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My situation - We landed May 2011 and we stayed for a month reccie that included Vancouver / Kelowna and NS.
Ive always wanted to live in Canada since the 1st time I visited in 2006, since then we have had 2 children and that has someone changed things.
We live quite well here and dont want for anything but Im in a job I want to change and is it the time to try Canada while we still have the chance.
If we dont go Ill always think what if as this will be our only chance.
Anyway for the question, We are considering moving over for 6 months to see how it goes, we would look for jobs, schools etc.
I feel we have to try it to see if it seems the right thing to do.
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Ive always thought can we have the same quality of life (ie affording things like we do in the UK) if we were financially the same in Canada as we are in the UK it would be a no brainer to me.
I think basically im airing my thoughts to see what people say. I know everyones situation is different but after years of looking im still as confused as ever.![Confused](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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Ive always wanted to live in Canada since the 1st time I visited in 2006, since then we have had 2 children and that has someone changed things.
We live quite well here and dont want for anything but Im in a job I want to change and is it the time to try Canada while we still have the chance.
If we dont go Ill always think what if as this will be our only chance.
Anyway for the question, We are considering moving over for 6 months to see how it goes, we would look for jobs, schools etc.
I feel we have to try it to see if it seems the right thing to do.
Is this is a good idea
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Ive always thought can we have the same quality of life (ie affording things like we do in the UK) if we were financially the same in Canada as we are in the UK it would be a no brainer to me.
I think basically im airing my thoughts to see what people say. I know everyones situation is different but after years of looking im still as confused as ever.
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Not something I'd do with kids personally, just don't think it's fair to uproot them just for six months and then have to return to the UK, but I guess it depends on how old they are - are they in school etc yet?
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It might be, but then again it might not be...
Given the information available I believe you have a 50% chance of sucess with a margin of error around+-50%
Given the information available I believe you have a 50% chance of sucess with a margin of error around+-50%
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You mean try it for 6 months and if its OK make it a more permanent move at that point, right, not leave after 6 months regardless?
Well, the risks are obvious, if you give up a job to do it it may well not be there in 6 months if it doesnt work out, and if you come and them leave its going to cost a fair bit of money.
But you want to change job anyway, and if you have the money then "its only money", right? Kids will see it as an adventure with any luck, but it can be age dependent I suppose.
Sounds like now or never to me. But if you dont have $30-50k to fall back on, then Id be wary about giving it a go with kids in tow. MIght be worth coming on your own for a few months, may not be ideal, but it will give you a chance to start to get established and wont be a major disruption for the kids if it goes pear shaped. Try and land a job from the UK first too, to save bleeding a lot of money up front. it may not be possible, but its got to be worth trying to arrange something in advance.
2 bits of advice:
Rent, dont buy at first.
Dont tell people here you are here for a 6 month trial, they will never hire you.
Getting a job that pays enough and that wont bore you is the biggest part of the puzzle for most.
Well, the risks are obvious, if you give up a job to do it it may well not be there in 6 months if it doesnt work out, and if you come and them leave its going to cost a fair bit of money.
But you want to change job anyway, and if you have the money then "its only money", right? Kids will see it as an adventure with any luck, but it can be age dependent I suppose.
Sounds like now or never to me. But if you dont have $30-50k to fall back on, then Id be wary about giving it a go with kids in tow. MIght be worth coming on your own for a few months, may not be ideal, but it will give you a chance to start to get established and wont be a major disruption for the kids if it goes pear shaped. Try and land a job from the UK first too, to save bleeding a lot of money up front. it may not be possible, but its got to be worth trying to arrange something in advance.
2 bits of advice:
Rent, dont buy at first.
Dont tell people here you are here for a 6 month trial, they will never hire you.
Getting a job that pays enough and that wont bore you is the biggest part of the puzzle for most.
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Our girls are 4 & 3 so dont really see this as to much of problem.
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What are you planning to do about your job, will they hold it open that long? What about your house, can you rent it out or will it not be worth it just for 6 months (and if so, can you cover the bills etc while you're gone and sort insurance etc)? Look in to really good medical insurance, obviously as visitors you won't be eligible for healthcare in Canada. How much will it mess up your eldest's school by her missing 6 months of school? Just a few things to think about.
Tbh, I don't really see what this will achieve that a 2 week trip couldn't - you could look at schools/jobs/rentals etc in a shorter timescale. So it's not something I would do, but JMO.
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I would just make the move, put the kids in school, get a job, find a place to live and see how it goes for a few months, I dont see what a 6 month research visit can acheive that a month cant, just get on with it if you are going to do it.
IF you want to make a deadline for making a decision as to whether its working or not I would go for at least a year. 6 months is bad for "culture shock", and after a year at least you have seen all the seasons.
IF you want to make a deadline for making a decision as to whether its working or not I would go for at least a year. 6 months is bad for "culture shock", and after a year at least you have seen all the seasons.
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I would just make the move, put the kids in school, get a job, find a place to live and see how it goes for a few months, I dont see what a 6 month research visit can acheive that a month cant, just get on with it if you are going to do it.
IF you want to leave a deadline for making a decision as to whether its working or not I would go for at least a year. 6 months is bad for "culture shock", and after a year at least you have seen all the seasons.
IF you want to leave a deadline for making a decision as to whether its working or not I would go for at least a year. 6 months is bad for "culture shock", and after a year at least you have seen all the seasons.
If you do have PR already, then go for it! Apologies if I've misunderstood.
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Have I got the wrong end of the stick? OP, do you already have a visa? If so, then it's a different matter entirely, I was assuming you'd have to return after the six months were up so it would be uprooting the family only to return 6 months later.
If you do have PR already, then go for it! Apologies if I've misunderstood.
If you do have PR already, then go for it! Apologies if I've misunderstood.
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Given how many people on this forum use 'landed' to just mean arrive in Canada, even for a holiday, I ignored that as it's often not any indication of visa status.
So, to sum up: if no visa and going over on a visitor visa, then I think the OP is mad, if he's got PR, then I think he should go for it.
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Given how many people on this forum use 'landed' to just mean arrive in Canada, even for a holiday, I ignored that as it's often not any indication of visa status.
So, to sum up: if no visa and going over on a visitor visa, then I think the OP is mad, if he's got PR, then I think he should go for it.
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I would just make the move, put the kids in school, get a job, find a place to live and see how it goes for a few months, I dont see what a 6 month research visit can acheive that a month cant, just get on with it if you are going to do it.
IF you want to make a deadline for making a decision as to whether its working or not I would go for at least a year. 6 months is bad for "culture shock", and after a year at least you have seen all the seasons.
IF you want to make a deadline for making a decision as to whether its working or not I would go for at least a year. 6 months is bad for "culture shock", and after a year at least you have seen all the seasons.
The only reason we have thought 6 months is if we dont like it in that time then we would come back just in time for them to go back to school so only really missing around 3-4 months of school (ie Mar-Sept)
Ideally id like to buy a up and running business but my question is why is a business for sale if its doing well
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Do you know how easy it is to get any form of credit for newbies, I know its getting more and more difficult. When we were over last year we actually opened a bank account only to close it again after we found out it was costing us (we never knew you had to pay to have a bank account)
Id be interested to know if you think we can get by on $4,000 a month if renting a $1500 property (family of 4)
Still not 100% sure on area to live either Kelowna region or Abbotsford / Chilliwack /Sardis (we have friends who we think are moving to that area)
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Given how many people on this forum use 'landed' to just mean arrive in Canada, even for a holiday, I ignored that as it's often not any indication of visa status.
So, to sum up: if no visa and going over on a visitor visa, then I think the OP is mad, if he's got PR, then I think he should go for it.![Thumbs Up](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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Given how many people on this forum use 'landed' to just mean arrive in Canada, even for a holiday, I ignored that as it's often not any indication of visa status.
So, to sum up: if no visa and going over on a visitor visa, then I think the OP is mad, if he's got PR, then I think he should go for it.
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Sorry, I didnt make it very clear, yes we have our visas and SIN cards
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Personally, I think you're mental if you think you can move here, buy a business, keep it going, experience enough of Canada to know if you think it's the right thing for you etc... all within 6 months.
If you want to make the move, do it. If you're not really sure, dont.
Moving here is ridiculously expensive- costs to ship furniture, flights, rental deposits, utility deposits, overspending on everything because you dont know any better... etc
If you want to make the move, do it. If you're not really sure, dont.
Moving here is ridiculously expensive- costs to ship furniture, flights, rental deposits, utility deposits, overspending on everything because you dont know any better... etc
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Personally, I think you're mental if you think you can move here, buy a business, keep it going, experience enough of Canada to know if you think it's the right thing for you etc... all within 6 months.
If you want to make the move, do it. If you're not really sure, dont.
Moving here is ridiculously expensive- costs to ship furniture, flights, rental deposits, utility deposits, overspending on everything because you dont know any better... etc
If you want to make the move, do it. If you're not really sure, dont.
Moving here is ridiculously expensive- costs to ship furniture, flights, rental deposits, utility deposits, overspending on everything because you dont know any better... etc
Add to that a few months with no income at the very minimum, even up to 6 or 12 months. That could be another $24k to $48k on top of the above.
Add the emotional stress on the family and yourself.
Plus the emotional stress on parents and siblings if applicable.
It's a huge undertaking with a young family who are looking to make the moves just because it might be the right thing to do.
Then add the same numbers again if it's not the right thing to do.
Holy shit
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Oh, and if the options were to stay enjoying life in the UK or move to chilliwack or Abbotsford, you be crazy to move in my opinion. Did you visit Abby? Uuuurgh
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Good points Ian.
Id be interested to know if you think we can get by on $4,000 a month if renting a $1500 property (family of 4)
Still not 100% sure on area to live either Kelowna region or Abbotsford / Chilliwack /Sardis (we have friends who we think are moving to that area)
Id be interested to know if you think we can get by on $4,000 a month if renting a $1500 property (family of 4)
Still not 100% sure on area to live either Kelowna region or Abbotsford / Chilliwack /Sardis (we have friends who we think are moving to that area)
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