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Working as a midwife in Ontario or BC

Old Nov 11th 2018, 4:26 pm
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Hi everyone, I am looking for a bit of advice and I am sure that the questions will keep coming! I am a community midwife that is on call regularly to provide continuity and hoping to work in this way when we move to either Ontario or BC in summer 2020. Has anyone got any experience of working in either Provence? We want to make the move from the UK to improve quality of life (We are an outdoors family with 2 teenage sons). What I am keen to know from your experiences

1, how do the wage compare to the UK? After expenses and taxes, I plan to work full time

2, do you find you have more disposable income after living expenses?

3, are you glad you made the move?

Thanks in anticipation

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2, do you find you have more disposable income after living expenses?


That will depend where in BC or ON you choose to live. Vancouver is going to be a lot different to Quesnel.
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It’s looking more likely that we will be setting in Ontario as we have friends that are there already
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Midwives in BC are regulated, and a university degree in nursing specialising in midwifery is necessary.

We also have doolahs, who are untrained people acting as midwives, coaching mothers before and after pregnancy. They are also regulated in BC.

i don't know about Ontario .............. but nurses in all provinces are highly regulated and unionised. It is often difficult to get on to the full time list as soon as you apply. Most start on either on-call, or part-time, and then work their way through length of service until they get full time.

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Midwives in BC are regulated, and a university degree in nursing specialising in midwifery is necessary.

We also have doolahs, who are untrained people acting as midwives, coaching mothers before and after pregnancy. They are also regulated in BC.

i don't know about Ontario .............. but nurses in all provinces are highly regulated and unionised. It is often difficult to get on to the full time list as soon as you apply. Most start on either on-call, or part-time, and then work their way through length of service until they get full time.
Thanks for replying, I do hold a midwifery degree, and plan to do the 6 month accelerated bridging course so my qualification is recognised, so that part I’m happy with....

It’s more the unknown financial part that is fhe biggest worry, it’s really hard to gauge from online posts and job advertisements to what I would be earning, darn money playing such an important part, as I know we would really settle and be happy based in Canada!
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Default Re: Working as a midwife in Ontario or BC

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It’s looking more likely that we will be setting in Ontario as we have friends that are there already
most likely south of Ottawa
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Default Re: Working as a midwife in Ontario or BC

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Midwives in BC are regulated, and a university degree in nursing specialising in midwifery is necessary.

We also have doolahs, who are untrained people acting as midwives, coaching mothers before and after pregnancy. They are also regulated in BC.

i don't know about Ontario .............. but nurses in all provinces are highly regulated and unionised. It is often difficult to get on to the full time list as soon as you apply. Most start on either on-call, or part-time, and then work their way through length of service until they get full time.
This isnt actually the case. Midwives have university degrees, but are not nurses. Doulas are not untrained midwives. Doulas do supportive care during labour, and do not deliver babies.
To practice as a midwife in BC as an internationally educated midwife please look at the following website
https://iembp.midwifery.ubc.ca/
For Ontario this is the website
https://ce-online.ryerson.ca/ce/default.aspx?id=2161
Its a very different system to the UK, Midwives in both Ontario and BC are basically self employed ( although are paid by the government health systems).
Hope this helps. Be prepared to jump through lots of hoops and the bridging courses can be quite expensive!
Good luck
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Default Re: Working as a midwife in Ontario or BC

Originally Posted by mrslrothwell
Hi everyone, I am looking for a bit of advice and I am sure that the questions will keep coming! I am a community midwife that is on call regularly to provide continuity and hoping to work in this way when we move to either Ontario or BC in summer 2020. Has anyone got any experience of working in either Provence? We want to make the move from the UK to improve quality of life (We are an outdoors family with 2 teenage sons). What I am keen to know from your experiences

1, how do the wage compare to the UK? After expenses and taxes, I plan to work full time

2, do you find you have more disposable income after living expenses?

3, are you glad you made the move?

Thanks in anticipation

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1. Better paid.
2. Yes
3.yes, but I’m moving back next year.
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This isnt actually the case. Midwives have university degrees, but are not nurses. Doulas are not untrained midwives. Doulas do supportive care during labour, and do not deliver babies.
To practice as a midwife in BC as an internationally educated midwife please look at the following website
https://iembp.midwifery.ubc.ca/
For Ontario this is the website
https://ce-online.ryerson.ca/ce/default.aspx?id=2161
Its a very different system to the UK, Midwives in both Ontario and BC are basically self employed ( although are paid by the government health systems).
Hope this helps. Be prepared to jump through lots of hoops and the bridging courses can be quite expensive!
Good luck
Ah, thank you for correcting me.

I was basing it on the fact that a) the Midwifery programme is run out of the Department of Family Practice, Faculty of Medicine, and b) the graduates attend the same ceremony as the nursing graduates.
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Default Re: Working as a midwife in Ontario or BC

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Hi everyone, I am looking for a bit of advice and I am sure that the questions will keep coming! I am a community midwife that is on call regularly to provide continuity and hoping to work in this way when we move to either Ontario or BC in summer 2020. Has anyone got any experience of working in either Provence? We want to make the move from the UK to improve quality of life (We are an outdoors family with 2 teenage sons). What I am keen to know from your experiences

1, how do the wage compare to the UK? After expenses and taxes, I plan to work full time

2, do you find you have more disposable income after living expenses?

3, are you glad you made the move?

Thanks in anticipation
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Originally Posted by mrslrothwell

most likely south of Ottawa
Ah - Ontario for sure then!
You may find these sites of use:

JobBank - wages, Midwife, Canada wide, by Province - you can also see jobs here: https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/marketrepo...ation/25500/ca

College of Midwives, Ontario, Internationally Trained: College of Midwives of Ontario

Healthforce Ontario - Internationally Trained Midwives: Registration Requirements

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1. Better paid.
2. Yes
3.yes, but I’m moving back next year.
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Great to have your expertise, so thanks for posting!

We do encourage people to post questions and information on the forum rather than via pm's - both for anyone else that may be looking for information in the future, and also so that any erroneous information can be corrected.

Thanks for understanding
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Thank you all so much for your reply’s, I have already research the transition part of getting my qualification accepted in Canada and am happy to jump through whatever hoop if I was sure it was the best thing to do! I am so sure the lifestyle aspect will suit us all as a family and In work, it’s just ensuring that financially we would be stable and be able to enjoy the new lifestyle, and that’s where I hoping to get some real life experience from others.....

we we are very excited by the possibilities

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One question ............... have you ever been to Canada to see whether you like the country in person?

Second question ............. how old are your sons, and what do they feel about leaving the UK for a very different life and schooling?
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One question ............... have you ever been to Canada to see whether you like the country in person?

Second question ............. how old are your sons, and what do they feel about leaving the UK for a very different life and schooling?
They will be 13 and 16

The 16 year old will most likely continue with his A levels homeschooled and he is planning to go to university to study earth sciences to become a palaeontologist, the best universities are in the US, so closer if he did decide to study there...

we will be moving before our youngest starts choosing his options for GCSE’s and before starting high school in Canada.

They are both on board and up for the move, they are really active outdoor types, and even though they worry about leaving their friends they can see the opportunities.


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They will be 13 and 16

The 16 year old will most likely continue with his A levels homeschooled and he is planning to go to university to study earth sciences to become a palaeontologist, the best universities are in the US, so closer if he did decide to study there...

we will be moving before our youngest starts choosing his options for GCSE’s and before starting high school in Canada.

They are both on board and up for the move, they are really active outdoor types, and even though they worry about leaving their friends they can see the opportunities.

I don't know how financially feasible attending university in the US might be but I can say that my children were coached for the US SAT exams while attending an ordinary, state funded, high school in Canada. Lots of high school graduates went on to US universities so the school was set up for that. I would think it more effective to exploit such expertise than to go the home schooling route. (Assuming neither parent has recent experience of the US university admissions procedures).

As always, I'm bemused by the reference to the boys being "outdoor types" and wonder what kind of outdoors Canada is expected to have that the UK does not.
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I don't know how financially feasible attending university in the US might be but I can say that my children were coached for the US SAT exams while attending an ordinary, state funded, high school in Canada. Lots of high school graduates went on to US universities so the school was set up for that. I would think it more effective to exploit such expertise than to go the home schooling route. (Assuming neither parent has recent experience of the US university admissions procedures).

As always, I'm bemused by the reference to the boys being "outdoor types" and wonder what kind of outdoors Canada is expected to have that the UK does not.
In the UK or in Canada we all like to enjoy the outdoors, and the opportunity to better our lifestyle will mean that we can pursue more!

We we are looking into all aspects of what will be the best options to inform our final decision, and I personally wanted to see if any Midwives who work in the areas could provide some real experiences. Hence my original question. Thanks for your answer to high schools though, it's definitely food for thought!
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