Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
#91
Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
My daughter claims that too. She leaves for work with the children still asleep (the nanny gets them up) and returns in time to have a couple of hours alone with them before putting them to bed. Her husband leaves for work before her and returns after the children have gone to bed. On weekends they often all have a day together to go to the beach or whatever.
This is approximately how we lived when the children were small and is, I suggest, more typical of life in Canada than the jolly families yacht racing after work and heli-skiing on the weekends.
This is approximately how we lived when the children were small and is, I suggest, more typical of life in Canada than the jolly families yacht racing after work and heli-skiing on the weekends.
The Mrs does yacht race after work on Wednesdays in the summer (crewing for her brother). We don't ski - heli or otherwise though. Our evenings seem to be taken up with routine of dance lessons, brownies and sparks. Friday night (when nothing is happening) comes as somewhat a relief.
#92
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Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
My daughter claims that too. She leaves for work with the children still asleep (the nanny gets them up) and returns in time to have a couple of hours alone with them before putting them to bed. Her husband leaves for work before her and returns after the children have gone to bed. On weekends they often all have a day together to go to the beach or whatever.
This is approximately how we lived when the children were small and is, I suggest, more typical of life in Canada than the jolly families yacht racing after work and heli-skiing on the weekends.
This is approximately how we lived when the children were small and is, I suggest, more typical of life in Canada than the jolly families yacht racing after work and heli-skiing on the weekends.
It's even harder now because of the insomniac puppy.
#93
Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
In a role that primarily interfaces with people in the UK, the extra one and a half hours I get from being in Newfoundland (GMT-3.5) as opposed to EST (GMT-5) is quite useful.
#94
Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
Something to consider is that companies try to shave something off the benefit package every year; no more defined benefit pensions, fewer paid sick days, elimination of vacation carry-over, more stringent conditions for paid overtime and so on. The number of vacation days has to be in the sights of HR departments across the country. In five years time we'll be hearing "you have two weeks? Is it grandfathered or what?". As you know, I'm a contractor, I've never had paid vacation or sick time in Canada. Companies increasingly want that arrangement with their "staff" and increasingly I think it's not a terrible option for the workers either.
#95
Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
Wednesday was my race night too. Broke the week up nicely (in high summer, by October it all seemed a bit mad).
Something to consider is that companies try to shave something off the benefit package every year; no more defined benefit pensions, fewer paid sick days, elimination of vacation carry-over, more stringent conditions for paid overtime and so on. The number of vacation days has to be in the sights of HR departments across the country. In five years time we'll be hearing "you have two weeks? Is it grandfathered or what?". As you know, I'm a contractor, I've never had paid vacation or sick time in Canada. Companies increasingly want that arrangement with their "staff" and increasingly I think it's not a terrible option for the workers either.
Something to consider is that companies try to shave something off the benefit package every year; no more defined benefit pensions, fewer paid sick days, elimination of vacation carry-over, more stringent conditions for paid overtime and so on. The number of vacation days has to be in the sights of HR departments across the country. In five years time we'll be hearing "you have two weeks? Is it grandfathered or what?". As you know, I'm a contractor, I've never had paid vacation or sick time in Canada. Companies increasingly want that arrangement with their "staff" and increasingly I think it's not a terrible option for the workers either.
#96
Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
That's a shame but they'll be free to sail again in 25 years or so.
#98
Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
I find it depends on the time of year -
Winter on weekdays, leave work at 4.30pm (ish) ,exercise the horse indoors and walk the dogs on a small walk (or none if icy), PJs by 7pm and netflix. So tired seemingly all the time.
Weekends - ride, walk dogs, chores. Netflix while it storms outside or snows or is just plain cold.
Summer - weekdays - leave work at 4.30pm, go for a ride outside, arrive home at 6.30ish, swim in the pool, bbq dinner, go for long dog walk at around 8.30pm, bed at 10ish. Watch minimal TV.
Summer weekends - ride early and walk dogs early, beach. Chores if I have to. Movies in the late evening.
Winter on weekdays, leave work at 4.30pm (ish) ,exercise the horse indoors and walk the dogs on a small walk (or none if icy), PJs by 7pm and netflix. So tired seemingly all the time.
Weekends - ride, walk dogs, chores. Netflix while it storms outside or snows or is just plain cold.
Summer - weekdays - leave work at 4.30pm, go for a ride outside, arrive home at 6.30ish, swim in the pool, bbq dinner, go for long dog walk at around 8.30pm, bed at 10ish. Watch minimal TV.
Summer weekends - ride early and walk dogs early, beach. Chores if I have to. Movies in the late evening.
#100
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Location: Switzerland
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Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
One thing that's concerning us about life in Canada is the two weeks holiday. Compared to other countries, Canada has a very low annual leave, 2 weeks being the norm, along with a small handful of public holidays. This leave appears to only be applied AFTER you have worked for a year.
My question is, how do people manage? Living in a beautiful country, how do you find time to explore, take up hobbies, visit your home country? Not to mention we're not getting any younger Canada comes out in polls as having a really good quality of life but nothing in the working side of that appears to benefit the average working person
My question is, how do people manage? Living in a beautiful country, how do you find time to explore, take up hobbies, visit your home country? Not to mention we're not getting any younger Canada comes out in polls as having a really good quality of life but nothing in the working side of that appears to benefit the average working person
Where Canadian companies lack in annual leave they can tend to make it up in other ways -- flex work weeks, teleworking, compressed work weeks, or share work accommodations. Don't forget about 1-year maternity leave (9 months can be shared with father). But still, I must say that the 2-week vacation is really short compared with other parts of the world. Europe really has an edge on North America and I hope that one day this improves.
#101
Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
Being a Canadian you likely didn't notice that the weather is horrible and non-Canadians would want a break from it. You likely don't have family getting married and being dying in foreign countries. This is like a post from Ethiopia, "being an African and having lived ... you do not notice the hunger".
#102
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Joined: Jul 2012
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Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
52 weeks maternity leave isn't special. They get that in the UK, plus shared. They get more pay in the UK too.
#103
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Joined: Jan 2006
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Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
Canada compared to its neighbor looks good.
Compare to other developed countries then Canada doesnt look so good.
Compare to other developed countries then Canada doesnt look so good.
#104
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Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
Being a Canadian you likely didn't notice that the weather is horrible and non-Canadians would want a break from it. You likely don't have family getting married and being dying in foreign countries. This is like a post from Ethiopia, "being an African and having lived ... you do not notice the hunger".
#105
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Re: Work/life balance with only two weeks holiday
Bats, in Switzerland you get 14 weeks and United States you are entitled to I believe 12 weeks unpaid leave. 52 weeks is a definite benefit. More pay in UK?? I would say that all depends on the position wouldn't you? I turned down an interview in London because it was quite low for the industry.
Last edited by ExpatSleeFamily; Apr 30th 2018 at 6:41 am.