Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
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Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
#77
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Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
In all seriousness, Alberta Motor Association offers this.... https://www.ama.ab.ca/cps/rde/xchg//...6.htm?link=tsr It doesn't look like any are scheduled yet, but it might be worth a phone call. Can't speak to how good it is though, but AMA is a fairly well-respected organization so I'm sure it can't be too bad.
All course run out of the Macleod Trail location.
#78
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Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
To be fair, Ontario and NS dont get nearly as cold as Alberta, and its in the extreme cold that regular rubber hardens and looses its ability to grip well...
In Ontario its probably the deeper more aggressive tread that makes what difference it does, but in Alberta the softer rubber compounds would be more of a factor more of the time.
I would bow to local experience, but common sense is telling me that adding weight to push the wheels down wont make as much difference if the rubber is rock hard. Still, the sand or salt will be handy for treating the road surface when you get stuck, although carrying the extra weight around for a few months is going to hurt your fuel economy to some extent, and it will be bad enough in the cold months without the extra weight anyway...
In Ontario its probably the deeper more aggressive tread that makes what difference it does, but in Alberta the softer rubber compounds would be more of a factor more of the time.
I would bow to local experience, but common sense is telling me that adding weight to push the wheels down wont make as much difference if the rubber is rock hard. Still, the sand or salt will be handy for treating the road surface when you get stuck, although carrying the extra weight around for a few months is going to hurt your fuel economy to some extent, and it will be bad enough in the cold months without the extra weight anyway...
#79
Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
$259 for 1/2 an hour!!!! are they wearing masks? because they bloody well should be. dear all, refer to my previous post on this matter and send me a timmies card, feel free to spend the difference on tyres. what a bloody rip off.
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Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
It's an hour and a half, still a rip off as far as I'm concerned.
#83
Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
Just put some Goodyear Nordic's and steel rims on the Jeep Liberty today , Tried them out in the snow/slush today and yes BIG difference.
I'm converted ..
I'm converted ..
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personally i think the high premiums are because of the 'won't happen to me attitude' and the poor driving standards... undertaking and impatience doesn't help reduce accidents, likewise jumping and running lights..
Most vehicles I saw off the road last three years were SUV and 4wd...to much confidence..'never happened before'.
I drove for the last three winters company vehicles, rear wheel drive, on all seasons, (the employers wouldn't pay for winter tyres not needed...), I was in a 24/7 field service job.
I got stuck one day outside my house, purely because the snowplow,plowed me in...
The key to safety is i think, taking it easy, driving to the road conditions and the three second rule..
cheers
Jerry
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Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
Hi
personally i think the high premiums are because of the 'won't happen to me attitude' and the poor driving standards... undertaking and impatience doesn't help reduce accidents, likewise jumping and running lights..
Most vehicles I saw off the road last three years were SUV and 4wd...to much confidence..'never happened before'.
I drove for the last three winters company vehicles, rear wheel drive, on all seasons, (the employers wouldn't pay for winter tyres not needed...), I was in a 24/7 field service job.
I got stuck one day outside my house, purely because the snowplow,plowed me in...
The key to safety is i think, taking it easy, driving to the road conditions and the three second rule..
cheers
Jerry
personally i think the high premiums are because of the 'won't happen to me attitude' and the poor driving standards... undertaking and impatience doesn't help reduce accidents, likewise jumping and running lights..
Most vehicles I saw off the road last three years were SUV and 4wd...to much confidence..'never happened before'.
I drove for the last three winters company vehicles, rear wheel drive, on all seasons, (the employers wouldn't pay for winter tyres not needed...), I was in a 24/7 field service job.
I got stuck one day outside my house, purely because the snowplow,plowed me in...
The key to safety is i think, taking it easy, driving to the road conditions and the three second rule..
cheers
Jerry
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Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
Hi
personally i think the high premiums are because of the 'won't happen to me attitude' and the poor driving standards... undertaking and impatience doesn't help reduce accidents, likewise jumping and running lights..
Most vehicles I saw off the road last three years were SUV and 4wd...to much confidence..'never happened before'.
I drove for the last three winters company vehicles, rear wheel drive, on all seasons, (the employers wouldn't pay for winter tyres not needed...), I was in a 24/7 field service job.
I got stuck one day outside my house, purely because the snowplow,plowed me in...
The key to safety is i think, taking it easy, driving to the road conditions and the three second rule..
cheers
Jerry
personally i think the high premiums are because of the 'won't happen to me attitude' and the poor driving standards... undertaking and impatience doesn't help reduce accidents, likewise jumping and running lights..
Most vehicles I saw off the road last three years were SUV and 4wd...to much confidence..'never happened before'.
I drove for the last three winters company vehicles, rear wheel drive, on all seasons, (the employers wouldn't pay for winter tyres not needed...), I was in a 24/7 field service job.
I got stuck one day outside my house, purely because the snowplow,plowed me in...
The key to safety is i think, taking it easy, driving to the road conditions and the three second rule..
cheers
Jerry
friction affects stopping distance
the less friction, the less control, the higher the chance of an error !
still they say that 75% think they're in the top 50% of Drivers
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Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
Tee Hee...
naah
three seconds min behind the vehicle in front
wait three seconds after the light turns green
I can't remember the source, it's in my books at work, but it was on the commercial driver course, apparently greatly increases your life expectancy when driving, but as usual try and practice it and someone hoots..
cheers
Jerry
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Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
obviously I must not.
But then I only did nuclear physics, I must have been doing it all wrong driving the last 35 yrs or so to have an accident free record, including commuting 60 miles a day by motorcycle all year around, rain,ice and snow, on normal tyres.
Out of interest the rcmp quote:-
Although it is recommended that motorists equip their vehicles with winter tread tires for travel on mountainous highways an all season tire with a "M&S" rating on the sidewall will suffice.
http://bc.rcmp.ca/ViewPage.action?si...contentId=7418
better buy myself a lotto ticket now, I must only have one of my nine lives left.
cheers
Jerry
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#90
Re: Winter tires or All season for Calgary???
Hi
personally i think the high premiums are because of the 'won't happen to me attitude' and the poor driving standards... undertaking and impatience doesn't help reduce accidents, likewise jumping and running lights..
Most vehicles I saw off the road last three years were SUV and 4wd...to much confidence..'never happened before'.
I drove for the last three winters company vehicles, rear wheel drive, on all seasons, (the employers wouldn't pay for winter tyres not needed...), I was in a 24/7 field service job.
I got stuck one day outside my house, purely because the snowplow,plowed me in...
The key to safety is i think, taking it easy, driving to the road conditions and the three second rule..
cheers
Jerry
personally i think the high premiums are because of the 'won't happen to me attitude' and the poor driving standards... undertaking and impatience doesn't help reduce accidents, likewise jumping and running lights..
Most vehicles I saw off the road last three years were SUV and 4wd...to much confidence..'never happened before'.
I drove for the last three winters company vehicles, rear wheel drive, on all seasons, (the employers wouldn't pay for winter tyres not needed...), I was in a 24/7 field service job.
I got stuck one day outside my house, purely because the snowplow,plowed me in...
The key to safety is i think, taking it easy, driving to the road conditions and the three second rule..
cheers
Jerry
Its probably a good idea to make the distinction between coastal BC and the snowier icier parts of Canada (the majority), where winter tires can make a lot more difference, even if the legislation is not in place to make them mandatory.
What you say about overconfidence is also true. The most important bit of safety equipment in any car is the grey spongy thing between the drivers ears.
Last edited by iaink; Oct 15th 2009 at 1:32 pm.