Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
#92
Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
Sorry, but your arguments seem very naive (more immigrants in Canada than the UK etc), hence the amusement of everybody. I'd suggest you wait a while and see if you think the UK is still rubbish when you've spent a year or two in Canada and discovered that the same problems are everywhere. It may surprise you, but unemployment, high levels of debt and immigration are not issues that belong solely to the UK. If you ever wanted a change from accountancy, may I suggest becoming a journalist for the Daily Mail? I think you'd fit right in.
Move for the love of the country you are immigrating to, not the perceived negatives of the one you've left behind.
#93
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Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
We all have choices to make in this life, it helps if one has a balanced view of the situation from where you are and to where you are going.
I put this to you all, if your government agreed to allow all North American people (Mexico to Canada) to move freely without visa or work permits, irrespective of whether they were skilled or not, allowing free use of an enhanced medicare and education system free of charge, and you were not given the opportunity to vote on the process, would you be happy? This is what we have in Europe right now, I can't see it improving in a hurry either.
On top of this, any migrant that lands in any of these countries from outside of the EU and is processed (Asylum seekers for example), they then can move freely between member states, and depending on what is on offer from the member states to these migrants, this will sway where they move to, ( UK is quite generous) you may start to see a problem emerging.
Sure you have problems in other countries, and if you live in leafy parts of Berkshire or little bubbles like York, you are less likely to see these problems daily. But speak to the man who has had to deal with daily life in the less affluent parts of UK and you will get a view that perhaps, is more like mine.
Ridiculing someones view does not help, it is my opinion and in a free world it is something I treasure, my life, my opinion. Now, back to my original post, we have discussed the situation and consider it worth the risk, it is not your life, it is ours.
I put this to you all, if your government agreed to allow all North American people (Mexico to Canada) to move freely without visa or work permits, irrespective of whether they were skilled or not, allowing free use of an enhanced medicare and education system free of charge, and you were not given the opportunity to vote on the process, would you be happy? This is what we have in Europe right now, I can't see it improving in a hurry either.
On top of this, any migrant that lands in any of these countries from outside of the EU and is processed (Asylum seekers for example), they then can move freely between member states, and depending on what is on offer from the member states to these migrants, this will sway where they move to, ( UK is quite generous) you may start to see a problem emerging.
Sure you have problems in other countries, and if you live in leafy parts of Berkshire or little bubbles like York, you are less likely to see these problems daily. But speak to the man who has had to deal with daily life in the less affluent parts of UK and you will get a view that perhaps, is more like mine.
Ridiculing someones view does not help, it is my opinion and in a free world it is something I treasure, my life, my opinion. Now, back to my original post, we have discussed the situation and consider it worth the risk, it is not your life, it is ours.
Last edited by trevorandjo york; Sep 28th 2011 at 10:48 am. Reason: whoops
#94
Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
I put this to you all, if your government agreed to allow all North American people (Mexico to Canada) to move freely without visa or work permits, irrespective of whether they were skilled or not, allowing free use of an enhanced medicare and education system free of charge, and you were not given the opportunity to vote on the process, would you be happy? This is what we have in Europe right now, I can't see it improving in a hurry either.
#95
Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
Thats an interesting statement. Im not sure I agree. Maybe not "totally" reliant, but certainly "very heavily".
Im with the others Im afraid, I think you are being naive about the realities of both the economics and emigration. Try before you buy if you can.
Im with the others Im afraid, I think you are being naive about the realities of both the economics and emigration. Try before you buy if you can.
#96
Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
Wonder what happened to their Australia aspirations ?
#97
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Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
We all have choices to make in this life, it helps if one has a balanced view of the situation from where you are and to where you are going.
I put this to you all, if your government agreed to allow all North American people (Mexico to Canada) to move freely without visa or work permits, irrespective of whether they were skilled or not, allowing free use of an enhanced medicare and education system free of charge, and you were not given the opportunity to vote on the process, would you be happy? This is what we have in Europe right now, I can't see it improving in a hurry either.
On top of this, any migrant that lands in any of these countries from outside of the EU and is processed (Asylum seekers for example), they then can move freely between member states, and depending on what is on offer from the member states to these migrants, this will sway where they move to, ( UK is quite generous) you may start to see a problem emerging.
Sure you have problems in other countries, and if you live in leafy parts of Berkshire or little bubbles like York, you are less likely to see these problems daily. But speak to the man who has had to deal with daily life in the less affluent parts of UK and you will get a view that perhaps, is more like mine.
Ridiculing someones view does not help, it is my opinion and in a free world it is something I treasure, my life, my opinion. Now, back to my original post, we have discussed the situation and consider it worth the risk, it is not your life, it is ours.
I put this to you all, if your government agreed to allow all North American people (Mexico to Canada) to move freely without visa or work permits, irrespective of whether they were skilled or not, allowing free use of an enhanced medicare and education system free of charge, and you were not given the opportunity to vote on the process, would you be happy? This is what we have in Europe right now, I can't see it improving in a hurry either.
On top of this, any migrant that lands in any of these countries from outside of the EU and is processed (Asylum seekers for example), they then can move freely between member states, and depending on what is on offer from the member states to these migrants, this will sway where they move to, ( UK is quite generous) you may start to see a problem emerging.
Sure you have problems in other countries, and if you live in leafy parts of Berkshire or little bubbles like York, you are less likely to see these problems daily. But speak to the man who has had to deal with daily life in the less affluent parts of UK and you will get a view that perhaps, is more like mine.
Ridiculing someones view does not help, it is my opinion and in a free world it is something I treasure, my life, my opinion. Now, back to my original post, we have discussed the situation and consider it worth the risk, it is not your life, it is ours.
#98
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Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
the mineral exploration industry is booming and probably will continue to do so during the recession, since people will always need metals! however should that industry ever dry up i would probably go back to my home county and run a pub or a cider press or something, if i could manage it. i wouldn't want to stay in canada if i couldn't do a job like the one i do now.
#99
Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
I dont think anybody really cares where you choose to live..i think people are just offering the benefit of their own experiences of living in Canada having lived in the UK..bascially saying Canada isnt the glowing paradise that people think and the UK is not the dung heap of the world.
#102
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Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
Perspectives differ but I'd always thought it very nice for people to share their learnings etc and shared in a community spirit. But I think the poster is just a bit unhappy now with the way things are and takes it a different way. Good wishes to everyone on their own travels.
#103
Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
I'd use "utterly reliant. As that Mr2005 pointed out somewhere, even the demand that comes from China ultimately arises from the US. A US recession will be a very bad thing for Canada.
#104
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Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
Ok, lets look at the title of the thread from the OP.
Answer: Yes. I will still migrate to Canada. If we are unsuccessful we will go to Oz.
I never asked for advice on the matter in this thread, but plenty still keep giving it, if I need advice, I will open a thread or search for an existing one that answers the query. Thank you everyone, Trevor takes a bow, turns left, and exits stage right.
Answer: Yes. I will still migrate to Canada. If we are unsuccessful we will go to Oz.
I never asked for advice on the matter in this thread, but plenty still keep giving it, if I need advice, I will open a thread or search for an existing one that answers the query. Thank you everyone, Trevor takes a bow, turns left, and exits stage right.
#105
Re: Will you still emigrate when the Canadian recession kicks in?
I put this to you all, if your government agreed to allow all North American people (Mexico to Canada) to move freely without visa or work permits, irrespective of whether they were skilled or not, allowing free use of an enhanced medicare and education system free of charge, and you were not given the opportunity to vote on the process, would you be happy? This is what we have in Europe right now, I can't see it improving in a hurry either.
NAFTA does provide that many skilled workers can move between the member countries to work, however it is not a directly comparable situation because the US does not have a govt. run healthcare system per se.
The country that objects to free movement of labour is the US, not Canada and Mexico. Canada is a little bit worried about Mexicans coming in and overwhelming the healthcare system but I doubt if the US proposed a treaty on free movement of labour that Canada would object to a bilateral treaty.
We've had various threads on here about how hard it is to get Americans to move to Canada, because Americans often have a distorted view of Canada, plus the housing costs here put them off.