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JonboyE Aug 18th 2013 8:43 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by russellg (Post 10857103)
... I wouldn't dream of dropping over £12k on a car in the UK without FSH (preferably with invoices). Is that too much to ask? ...

It seems so. TBH, what you would do in the UK is not really relevant. This isn't the UK. I have not come across people keeping FSH or offereing it to potential vehicle buyers. However, it is very common to get a competent mechanic to inspect the vehicle for you. The provincial AAs do this for a very reasonable fee.

yzf.shaun Aug 18th 2013 9:05 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by colchar (Post 10857091)
I drive in southern Ontario every day of the week and have done for years and I do not see these unsafe cars you are so convinced exist.



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0929-00337.jpg


Just one of many fine examples of cars currently on the road in Ontario!

I guess people really do just drive around Ontario with there eyes closed. :thumbdown:

Scribble Aug 18th 2013 9:09 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by yzf.shaun (Post 10857186)
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0929-00337.jpg


Just one of many fine examples of cars currently on the road in Ontario!

I guess people really do just drive around Ontario with there eyes closed. :thumbdown:

it's hardly unsafe though. that's a bit of rust caused by all the salt and chemicals put on the roads during winter.

MarkG Aug 18th 2013 9:13 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by russellg (Post 10856401)
A crack in the windscreen is "nonsense"?

Yes.

How many accidents have been caused by a crack in the windscreen?


As for non-structural rust holes, try telling that to a pedestrian if they get knocked down by a car with a gaping hole in the front wing.
I suspect they're rather more annoyed about the whole 'getting knocked down' part.

All these silly rules do is keep windscreen companies and welders employed. They cost far more than any benefit they might provide.

yzf.shaun Aug 18th 2013 9:28 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by Scribble (Post 10857191)
it's hardly unsafe though. that's a bit of rust caused by all the salt and chemicals put on the roads during winter.

I strongly suspect if that vehicle were to be sold then it would not pass the Ontario Safety inspection.

If the vehicle is unable to be passed on as "safe" then how can it be considered as safe to be in use by the present keeper.

christmasoompa Aug 18th 2013 10:07 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10857120)
The item that I do find expensive in Canada is sliced bread. £1-1.50 for a Warburtons or Hovis wholemeal loaf, whereas I seem to recall similar being north of $4 in Canada.

Warburtons or Hovis?! Posh bread eh? 47p a loaf I pay. :lol:

Shard Aug 18th 2013 10:26 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 10857245)
Warburtons or Hovis?! Posh bread eh? 47p a loaf I pay. :lol:

Crikey, that is frugal! We (ha ha) do home-bake too, not sure if that works out more or less than buying, but it's certainly good bread.

christmasoompa Aug 18th 2013 10:30 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10857264)
Crikey, that is frugal! We (ha ha) do home-bake too, not sure if that works out more or less than buying, but it's certainly good bread.

Ditto. My bog standard sliced is the Tesco 47p one (which is actually pretty good!) and I also make nicer bread i.e. sundried tomato & Parmesan or similar. I don't know if it's cheaper or not either but you can't beat the smell of bread cooking so I don't care. :lol:

Shard Aug 18th 2013 10:36 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 10857265)
Ditto. My bog standard sliced is the Tesco 47p one (which is actually pretty good!) and I also make nicer bread i.e. sundried tomato & Parmesan or similar. I don't know if it's cheaper or not either but you can't beat the smell of bread cooking so I don't care. :lol:

I think the UK supers must do a loss-leader on own brand bread. Just had a look at the 47p loaf and it seems to be like the bread Sainsburys will do for 80p (which occasionally we get). The thing is, their pricing strategies are so crafty that what you save on something like bread you completely lose as soon as you buy some vegetables or biscuits or some other unsuspected item.

colchar Aug 18th 2013 10:38 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by yzf.shaun (Post 10857186)
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0929-00337.jpg


Just one of many fine examples of cars currently on the road in Ontario!

I guess people really do just drive around Ontario with there eyes closed. :thumbdown:



Congratulations, you found one example of a car with some rust (I'll leave aside the fact that we have no idea where that car is actually from). And that rust in no way makes that car unsafe as it is mainly surface rust in areas that do not affect the functionality or the safety of the car.

I just came back home after running around for an hour or so doing some shopping. Because of the conversation here I paid particular attention to other cars when I was out and I only saw three cars with rust on them. The first was at the lip of the trunk lid and the other two were over rear wheel wells. So none of the three had rust in any spot that would affect the functionality or safety of the car and none of the rust was very extensive - nothing that half an hour with a grinder and some body filler wouldn't solve.

colchar Aug 18th 2013 10:38 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 10857095)
+1 to all your answers.


Thanks, these claims about hordes of unsafe vehicles on Ontario's roads are ridiculously overblown.

colchar Aug 18th 2013 10:51 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by russellg (Post 10857103)
There are plenty of unsafe skips on the road, certainly round St Catharines. Other people on here have seen the same. I have eyes, I've been driving for over 20 years and I've driven all sorts of cars from old bangers (which I've spent plenty of time taking apart and rebuilding) to brand new cars. I have looked at the secondhand dealers down Hartzel Road and some of the cars for sale on those lots are scary. But again looking at the more expensive used cars (and on the face of it there are plenty of decent cars for $20k), if they want to see my filthy lucre then I would want to see some (preferably full) service history. I wouldn't dream of dropping over £12k on a car in the UK without FSH (preferably with invoices). Is that too much to ask? If this the paranoia you refer to?


You keep moaning on and on about service histories on cars and yes, it is too much to ask for because that is not the way we do things here. Dealers do not provide service histories - deal with it. If you don't like that fact, buy privately and demand a service history from the previous owner. Otherwise, just don't buy a bloody car.

If you want things exactly as they are in Britain perhaps you should stay in Britain as you'll obviously be happier there. We get along perfectly fine here without doing things exactly as they are in Britain (I would actually argue that we do a lot better here) so don't come here demanding that we do things your way - you have adjust to our way of doing things and if you don't like it, tough!

And no, you do not have to pay $20K for a decent used car. The last one I bought was a 2002 Ford Taurus from Dixie Ford which I purchased in December 2007 or January 2008 (pictured below - and no, that is not rust at the bottom of the driver's door, it is dirt and mud because of the weather when I bought it) back when I was in grad school. I paid less than $10K for that car (on the road for that price) but, according to you, used cars here are all deathtraps and one has to pay $20K for a decent used car. Right.....sure we do.


http://imageshack.us/a/img27/1381/grwb.jpg





Come on hard man, lets have it!

Oh how cute, you're playing internet tough guy now.

colchar Aug 18th 2013 10:54 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by russellg (Post 10857107)
You are wrong! You started of saying milk was £1.99 for 2L in Tesco, which you have just demonstrated was a load of old pony.

Are you for real? Check that first link I provided - the milk there is £1.98 for 2L.

colchar Aug 18th 2013 11:06 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 10857108)
Cheddar on there is around 8 pounds a kilo, here it's at least $20.


Pardon???

Where are you doing your shopping? I got Kraft old cheddar for $4.49 for 500g at Freshco last week or the week before. The small 200g bars of Kraft extra old cheddar regularly go on sale for $1.99.


As for that Globe and Mail link, I'd like to know which stores they got those prices from. When I was out earlier I stopped to pick up a couple of things for my parents, including milk, and that milk cost $3.99 at Fortinos and it is one of the more expensive stores (it and Metro).



Edited to add: Freshco has cheddar on sale again this week. Go to the link below, choose Ontario from the drop down menu, then choose Brampton as the city (it will be the same price all over the GTA but I live in Brampton so that is my point of reference), then pick any of the stores in the next drop down list. Go to the flyer link at the top left of the page and on the second page of the flyer you will find 500g bars of Black Diamond cheddar on for $4.99 each.

http://www.freshco.com/Home.aspx

Danny B Aug 18th 2013 11:08 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 
We have a huge neighborhood garage sale up in my area every May. I tend to let stuff go at ridiculously cheap prices just to get it out of my house. My Canadian neighbors on the other hand, hang on to crap year after year in the hope that someone will eventually pay the stupid prices that they are asking.

You are right though, used stuff is expensive over here. I just bought 4 brand new 16" steel wheels from costco for $254, this is far cheaper than any used set of wheels that I could find locally.


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