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Steve_ Aug 21st 2013 7:00 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 
http://globalnews.ca/news/742031/b-c...s-liquor-laws/

Also: Bill C-311


I imagine everyone does
If you value your liquor licence, you have to be careful who you sell to. I'm sure you can find it but there was a big thing on CBC about the enforcement of the law against wineries in the Okanagan, hence the change in Federal law.

dbd33 Aug 21st 2013 7:06 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 10862505)
http://globalnews.ca/news/742031/b-c...s-liquor-laws/

Also: Bill C-311



If you value your liquor licence, you have to be careful who you sell to. I'm sure you can find it but there was a big thing on CBC about the enforcement of the law against wineries in the Okanagan, hence the change in Federal law.

Never heard of any such law before. How very odd. Still, if it's had no effect on me after all this time, I don't suppose it will now.

dbd33 Aug 21st 2013 7:15 am

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I just received a junk mail from a VW dealer offering a trade for my car (plainly they haven't see it). It contains the following relevant text:

'In its June 10th edition MACLEAN’S Magazine describes the problem this way: “Consumers who put off new vehicle purchases during the recession are now being forced to replace their aging rides – and they’re looking to do so at a time when attractive used vehicles, are, for a host of reasons, difficult to come by.” We call it the perfect storm… and we know that when
you finish reviewing this email you will be excited by the opportunity.

Here’s the problem in a nutshell:

The 2008 financial crisis forced most manufacturers to get out of leasing which has stopped the natural flow of vehicles coming back to the dealership and has created a scarcity of quality used vehicles in the area. Existing used-car shortages have now caused used car prices to spike over the last few years which have made traditional acquisition avenues like the wholesale auction much less attractive.'

Dunno if there's any truth in it. I stopped daring to open Macleans after the Conrad Black/Barbara Ameil blow job issue.

lyn1972 Aug 21st 2013 7:21 am

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Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 10862492)
I'm not. Well I mean I'm happily criticizing I suppose but Canada is definitely a better place to live than the UK. (Although I suppose I am always posting on here about how much I prefer the TV and radio which appears to be a unique POV. :lol:)

I could go on at great length (and have) but basically the underlying reason why Canada is better is that the UK suffers from a wide variety of problems, the root cause of which are that there are too many people living too close together.

Just on the basis of how quiet it is in Canada I think it is worth moving here. Took me three months to be able to sleep properly because it was so weird that it was quiet at night.

:thumbsup: very true, and cant wait to start our new life :)

Howefamily Aug 21st 2013 7:39 am

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Originally Posted by orly (Post 10862325)
What I did is stop drinking/using as much milk ;)

We hardly use any of it now....

Auld Yin Aug 21st 2013 7:49 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by lyn1972 (Post 10862533)
:thumbsup: very true, and cant wait to start our new life :)

There are very few aspects of life in Canada that cannot just be transferred to the UK and many positives also. People comment on here about those who come with rosé-tinted glasses but when they dream/reminisce/fantasise about the UK it's with wearing those same rosé-tinted specs. I had the problem at first, but I took the $1,000 cure after 3 years and since then I've been quite fine, thank you Canada.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 21st 2013 8:59 am

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Originally Posted by lyn1972 (Post 10862148)
Thank you :thumbsup: we just want to live a life..... right now we cant even afford to take our kids out ..... the cost of fuel, or public transport is ridiculous before we start.... and after everything is paid we have £40 a month left ....... it just gets you down

Average wages in Canada, Stats Can.

From what I can tell you will be a pretty average Canadian if stats Can is correct in their numbers.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 21st 2013 9:09 am

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Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 10862483)
It's called "Thrifty's" in Vancouver.

No idea Thrifty's was sold...lol

They are a small player in the lower mainland, I think they have 7 or 8 stores in total, with the rest being on the Island.

If you catch their sales in the flyer, good deals can be found.

YoshiPal2010 Aug 21st 2013 9:34 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 10862679)
Average wages in Canada, Stats Can.

From what I can tell you will be a pretty average Canadian if stats Can is correct in their numbers.

To be honest, the $28 per hour quoted by the OP is really not anything to write home about, especially for a skilled worker. A temporary custodian, with the Edmonton school board, earns $22 per hour. Now I am not saying they shouldn't -- I work for the Calgary board, as a Facility Operator; boiler ticket, Applied Management Certificate through SAIT School of Business, Facility Management Certificate, etc -- and earn $26 per hour. However, the tradesmen we employ are on $38 per hour and up. So, the $28 per hour offered to the OPs husband, is decidely average, and only really reflects the cost of living in Edmonton. Not really gonna "live the life of Riley".

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 21st 2013 9:43 am

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Originally Posted by YoshiPal2010 (Post 10862748)
To be honest, the $28 per hour quoted by the OP is really not anything to write home about, especially for a skilled worker. A temporary custodian, with the Edmonton school board, earns $22 per hour. Now I am not saying they shouldn't -- I work for the Calgary board, as a Facility Operator; boiler ticket, Applied Management Certificate through SAIT School of Business, Facility Management Certificate, etc -- and earn $26 per hour. However, the tradesmen we employ are on $38 per hour and up. So, the $28 per hour offered to the OPs husband, is decidely average, and only really reflects the cost of living in Edmonton. Not really gonna "live the life of Riley".

Any government job has inflated wages for those sorts of jobs. A custodian in a private sector will basically be min. wage. My last employer paid the custodial staff 10.27/hr.

I mean transit bus drivers in Vancouver start at 22-29/hr just to drive a bus around.

28 is good money in my eyes, but then again I have never earned more then 12/hr in my life...

Not all skilled jobs lead to super high wages, nurses are very skilled in my opinion and only start at 31/hr in BC. (new grads) they top out around 40/hr.

BristolUK Aug 21st 2013 9:54 am

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Originally Posted by JimandBettina (Post 10862180)
Having just arrived in Canada in January this year, I feel I am qualified to comment on the relative cost of living in both countries

I agree with much of that but I do think you have underestimated the savings that may be made in the same way you say you did in the UK.


Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 10862289)
Unfortunately, many compare the cost of living in the UK to Canada and this in my view is unrealistic, as it is dependent on the FX...When we arrived it ranged from $2.25 to $2.60 to GBP, so Canada seemed really cheap. It makes no difference once here.

Was just going to say that myself. Steak, Chicken, beef, pork, Cheese, pop, bread, fresh fruit, fresh veg, ice cream, tinned stuff, ready made things, pasta, rice...most of these things are mostly available for the same prices in $$ as we were paying in 2005.


Originally Posted by JimandBettina (Post 10862316)
..... but comparing is inevitable when one is living on a UK pension paid in £ or by a UK company in £.

True. I imagine most aren't. I have Canadian income and UK income so I see how much less the UK money is worth now. But I still see many unchanged prices from what "seemed" cheap when the exchange rate was better.

Shard Aug 21st 2013 10:33 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10862155)
In Ontario there are four publically funded school systems:

- Catholic English
- Catholic French
- Other English
- Other French

FI operates within the Catholic and Other English language systems and is unrelated to the French systems. Practically, the difference is that, in a FI school only the lessons are in French, in a French system school the school operates in French and it's not uncommon for the staff (and pupils) to be new immigrants who speak no English.

The French school systems are very well funded. I don't know about the general case but the school my children attended, Le Collège français in Toronto, provided an ib program and cramming sessions for the SATs. I don't think pupils at English language schools in Toronto are routinely entered in SATs, nevermind coached for them. The school operates sports teams that compete against privately funded English language schools such as UCC, thus the students are exposed to a side of Canadian life (that of the pampered elite) that they might not even know existed had they attended English language schools.

It seems to me that the school, and I believe other schools in that system, offer their brighter pupils opportunities that would be available to them elsewhere only if they had affluent parents commited to funding their academic lives. All this and drugs and prostitution right on the front steps!

Thanks for this, but am not sure if I fully follow. Are the school systems "Catholic French", "Other French" Ontario's FI system or is there a also a "fully French" system in Ontario (as in Quebec)? :confused:

Piff Poff Aug 21st 2013 11:20 am

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 

Originally Posted by YoshiPal2010 (Post 10862429)
Sounds like you really want the UK!

Erm not necessarily, we are not discounting the possibility, but it is very low on the scale. We used to drive US muscle cars in the UK, Mustangs, challengers firebirds and the like, thing is you go to a US car show in the UK and there is untold amount of stuff, from your tin lizzy to the latest cadillac, and all manner of hotrods and custom vehicles, we've not seen one tot rod since we've lived here. Then you can to places like the Enfield Pageant etc and see a whole different set of cars, not the same 1/2 dozen you get here.

One example I can give you, mm it was sort of our epiphany, out of interest in April I Googled show and shines Ontario and already 356 were advertised, I Googled the same for Alberta and there were 12. That's a huge difference.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 21st 2013 11:41 am

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Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 10862916)
Erm not necessarily, we are not discounting the possibility, but it is very low on the scale. We used to drive US muscle cars in the UK, Mustangs, challengers firebirds and the like, thing is you go to a US car show in the UK and there is untold amount of stuff, from your tin lizzy to the latest cadillac, and all manner of hotrods and custom vehicles, we've not seen one tot rod since we've lived here. Then you can to places like the Enfield Pageant etc and see a whole different set of cars, not the same 1/2 dozen you get here.

One example I can give you, mm it was sort of our epiphany, out of interest in April I Googled show and shines Ontario and already 356 were advertised, I Googled the same for Alberta and there were 12. That's a huge difference.

What about BC? Not sure what the culture is like for your hobby though.

caretaker Aug 21st 2013 12:01 pm

Re: Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
 
The free paper from Penticton (Penticton Western News) today has a pic of a row of classic TR3's on display at the British Columbia Triumph Registry 33rd Annual All Triumph Drive In held on Aug. 17 in Penticton.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 10862940)
What about BC? Not sure what the culture is like for your hobby though.



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