Why Post Dated Cheques?
#46
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
I appreciate the convenience of direct debits and standing orders too but we just have to accept that it isn't going to happen here in the near future. Even when you try and explain how it works to bank employees they look at you like a dog watching TV.
Definitely archaic but not worth worrying about.
Definitely archaic but not worth worrying about.
It seems more bother than it's worth to follow up though.
#47
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Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
Depending on province you might be able to refuse. I always did as I dont buy checks, and my bank only gave me 1 free check a month.
I was so not buying checks just to pay rent and its not my problem if the landlord doesn't want to be accesible for me to pay rent on the day its due, not before.
I've been screwed once too many times by landlords depositing checks early and will never do it again, always someone else willing to rent who wont require it and I now try to only rent from leasing companies or direct from stratas, the private landlord route is not something I want to deal with again.
Last edited by scrubbedexpat091; Oct 28th 2009 at 8:31 pm.
#48
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
< mumbles about having to pay to have a bank account, use an ATM, and pay for cheques >
Sorry, did I say something?
I rented a couple of places in Toronto and had to hand over post dated cheques and thankfully never had a problem with them being cashed early, my second landlady seemed to cash them late if anything.
I did ask them who their account was with and if it had been TD then I'd have used their "personal payment" system to setup an automatic transfer to them every month, but alas neither of the landladies were with TD.
I did leave a place early and the landlady was more than happy to send the remaining cheques over to me to destroy as she didn't bulk deposit them at the bank, which was nice, as otherwise I'd have to cancel them and that would of course cost me to do so and with at least six months left, that would add up a fair bit as I doubt the bank would give any kind of discount if you're canceling multiple cheques.
Sorry, did I say something?
I rented a couple of places in Toronto and had to hand over post dated cheques and thankfully never had a problem with them being cashed early, my second landlady seemed to cash them late if anything.
I did ask them who their account was with and if it had been TD then I'd have used their "personal payment" system to setup an automatic transfer to them every month, but alas neither of the landladies were with TD.
I did leave a place early and the landlady was more than happy to send the remaining cheques over to me to destroy as she didn't bulk deposit them at the bank, which was nice, as otherwise I'd have to cancel them and that would of course cost me to do so and with at least six months left, that would add up a fair bit as I doubt the bank would give any kind of discount if you're canceling multiple cheques.
#49
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
I did leave a place early and the landlady was more than happy to send the remaining cheques over to me to destroy as she didn't bulk deposit them at the bank, which was nice, as otherwise I'd have to cancel them and that would of course cost me to do so and with at least six months left, that would add up a fair bit as I doubt the bank would give any kind of discount if you're canceling multiple cheques.
A good landlord will not mind asking the bank to return your cheques and then pass them back to you if they have been deposited in bulk. It can take a few days for them to come back though. I usually time it to coincide with the return of the tenant's deposit.
#50
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
According to someone at the bank (Toronto Dominion) yesterday there is no $1000 limit on the Interac Email payment system so in theory that should be an option. They also said the recipient can set up an automatic payment collection using the details on the senders cheque - this sounded like a direct debit to me but she called is something else.
It seems more bother than it's worth to follow up though.
It seems more bother than it's worth to follow up though.
#51
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
I was so not buying checks just to pay rent and its not my problem if the landlord doesn't want to be accesible for me to pay rent on the day its due, not before.
I've been screwed once too many times by landlords depositing checks early and will never do it again, always someone else willing to rent who wont require it and I now try to only rent from leasing companies or direct from stratas, the private landlord route is not something I want to deal with again.
How do you pay your rent?
#52
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 15,883
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
The first deposit the person responsible deposited all of the cheques at once, her excuse was she'd never heard of post dated cheques before so figured you deposited them and the bank took care of it.
The bank didn't check dates and cashed the lot. It took months to sort it out. Someone at the bank muttered no-one told us they were post dated.
Bottom line I wouldn't trust the bank to catch the error.
#53
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
Banks make mistakes. But legally I *think* they are allowed to cash the cheque (something about the date being an agreement between the writer and the receiver of the cheque and it being illegal to write a cheque if you know you don't have the funds to cover it - not really sure, maybe somebody that knows Canadian banking law will know).
#54
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
An organization I'm involved with started accepting post dated cheques for payment.
The first deposit the person responsible deposited all of the cheques at once, her excuse was she'd never heard of post dated cheques before so figured you deposited them and the bank took care of it.
The bank didn't check dates and cashed the lot. It took months to sort it out. Someone at the bank muttered no-one told us they were post dated.
Bottom line I wouldn't trust the bank to catch the error.
The first deposit the person responsible deposited all of the cheques at once, her excuse was she'd never heard of post dated cheques before so figured you deposited them and the bank took care of it.
The bank didn't check dates and cashed the lot. It took months to sort it out. Someone at the bank muttered no-one told us they were post dated.
Bottom line I wouldn't trust the bank to catch the error.
#56
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
An organization I'm involved with started accepting post dated cheques for payment.
The first deposit the person responsible deposited all of the cheques at once, her excuse was she'd never heard of post dated cheques before so figured you deposited them and the bank took care of it.
The bank didn't check dates and cashed the lot. It took months to sort it out. Someone at the bank muttered no-one told us they were post dated.
Bottom line I wouldn't trust the bank to catch the error.
The first deposit the person responsible deposited all of the cheques at once, her excuse was she'd never heard of post dated cheques before so figured you deposited them and the bank took care of it.
The bank didn't check dates and cashed the lot. It took months to sort it out. Someone at the bank muttered no-one told us they were post dated.
Bottom line I wouldn't trust the bank to catch the error.
#57
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 15,883
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
Banks make mistakes. But legally I *think* they are allowed to cash the cheque (something about the date being an agreement between the writer and the receiver of the cheque and it being illegal to write a cheque if you know you don't have the funds to cover it - not really sure, maybe somebody that knows Canadian banking law will know).
Who knew?
http://www.fcac-acfc.gc.ca/eng/consu...Info-5-eng.asp
#58
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
An organization I'm involved with started accepting post dated cheques for payment.
The first deposit the person responsible deposited all of the cheques at once, her excuse was she'd never heard of post dated cheques before so figured you deposited them and the bank took care of it.
The bank didn't check dates and cashed the lot. It took months to sort it out. Someone at the bank muttered no-one told us they were post dated.
Bottom line I wouldn't trust the bank to catch the error.
The first deposit the person responsible deposited all of the cheques at once, her excuse was she'd never heard of post dated cheques before so figured you deposited them and the bank took care of it.
The bank didn't check dates and cashed the lot. It took months to sort it out. Someone at the bank muttered no-one told us they were post dated.
Bottom line I wouldn't trust the bank to catch the error.
#59
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: Why Post Dated Cheques?
Apparently if the bank is a member of the Canadian Payments Association (CPA) then they CANNOT cash the cheque before the date indicated on it.
Who knew?
http://www.fcac-acfc.gc.ca/eng/consu...Info-5-eng.asp
Who knew?
http://www.fcac-acfc.gc.ca/eng/consu...Info-5-eng.asp