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backhomeagain Feb 19th 2010 3:19 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 
Hey Paul

Of course I'm bitter and twisted - I'm sitting here with my thumb up my ass, all day - every day an not allowed to work. I'm not allowed to complain as its not the correct thing to do, apparently. And the people that can sort out the problem dont even bother to respond to emails. (polite emails I might add):huh:

dboy Feb 19th 2010 3:21 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert (Post 8357817)
As a final comment regarding Canada, I think it sucks, big time Those who got the permanent residence - fair play. But I bet you had to virtually tell them the colour of your undies to get that PR. And what right does a government have to know how much money you have? What, cant the eggheads come up with another idea? Or is it so acceptable to people now that telling the government they have x amount of dollars in the bank so they can find ways of taking it away from them? Talk about legal robbery, Canada seems to have got that down to a fine art.
A country steeped in crap like it is - you can shove it. I'm outta here very soon and my only regret is coming here. Wish me good riddance all you want, it just reinforces what I believe about Canada - keep your Vietnamese, your Asians, your Chinese because very soon you Canadians will be the minority and very soon fluttering in the breeze high above parliament wont be your beloved the Maple Leaf.

I've never experienced as many two faced, back stabbing people as I have within the last two years. UK is not perfect, but at least we dont have to complete a life story on paper to get a job.

Dont belive me? Just scroll back throught the pages and read other comments similar to mine - we cant all be wrong.

good riddance

mocol Feb 19th 2010 3:27 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert (Post 8358043)
Hey Paul

Of course I'm bitter and twisted - I'm sitting here with my thumb up my ass, all day - every day an not allowed to work. I'm not allowed to complain as its not the correct thing to do, apparently. And the people that can sort out the problem dont even bother to respond to emails. (polite emails I might add):huh:

I don't want to pry Squiddgealert but what happened you make you feel so bitter about Canada?

iaink Feb 19th 2010 3:41 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by mocol (Post 8358065)
I don't want to pry Squiddgealert but what happened you make you feel so bitter about Canada?

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...37#post8320837

backhomeagain Feb 19th 2010 3:49 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 
Mocol
Jibes from muppets like Del boy for one thing

Failure to understand why HRSDC/SC is witholding an LMO from an employer, (refused 3 times) - when I have been offered two jobs.

Having to rely on government handouts when they insisit I look for work. Then told I cannot work:confused::confused::confused:

mocol Feb 19th 2010 3:49 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8358098)

Thanks iaink. We've been messed around workwise since we came here too. OH is on fourth job and we've been on EI. We're not bitter or hold it against the country. It's not been easy at times but when we hear tales of what the UK is like now it makes it easier to bear.

iaink Feb 19th 2010 3:51 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert (Post 8358043)
I'm not allowed to complain as its not the correct thing to do, apparently.

You've every right to complain (feel free to, as long as you stick within the site rules), but comments like "think of all those Chinese, Colombians, Vietnamese, Asians, and Africans taking over the Maple leaf." and "keep your Vietnamese, your Asians, your Chinese" seem to me to have nothing at all to do with your LMO problems and seem unlikely to gain you any sympathy.

As for delboy, well, you did ask for it:confused:

backhomeagain Feb 19th 2010 3:52 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 
The UK is coming out of the recession Mocol, like any other country it will take time to get back on its feet. If you look at UK job sites like Trovit, you will see there are loads of work available.
Wife is contracted to work for her company until this November. Thats when our permits expire - and thats why I cannot go home until then.:(

mocol Feb 19th 2010 3:53 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert (Post 8358117)
Mocol
Jibes from muppets like Del boy for one thing

Failure to understand why HRSDC/SC is witholding an LMO from an employer, (refused 3 times) - when I have been offered two jobs.

Having to rely on government handouts when they insisit I look for work. Then told I cannot work:confused::confused::confused:

I'm sorry things haven't worked out for you. What do you think the future holds for you - will you be staying here. Friends and family back in the UK tell us constantly that we did the right thing in leaving and we have to agree. If you had found a steady job when you got here do you think you would be feeling differently about the place now - I suspect you might be.

JonboyE Feb 19th 2010 3:54 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 8357971)
Failures are usually the most conceited of men: - D.H. Lawrence.

I like that.

JonboyE Feb 19th 2010 3:55 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dboy (Post 8358048)
good riddance

In hockey they call it addition by subtraction.

backhomeagain Feb 19th 2010 3:56 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 
Sorry IanK

But I need to say this - <Snip>

iaink Feb 19th 2010 4:00 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert (Post 8358143)
Sorry IanK

But I need to say this -

No, you didnt need to say that.

See you in a couple of weeks:rolleyes:

mocol Feb 19th 2010 4:02 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert (Post 8358129)
The UK is coming out of the recession Mocol, like any other country it will take time to get back on its feet. If you look at UK job sites like Trovit, you will see there are loads of work available.
Wife is contracted to work for her company until this November. Thats when our permits expire - and thats why I cannot go home until then.:(

It is not just the UK coming out of recession and I think Canada wasn't as badly affected by it as the UK was. It sounds like Canada isn't the place for you any more and it is time to head 'home' Please don't spend the months between now and November being so angry and bitter - it wont make things any easier for you. I hope your eventual return to the UK is a good one and that you are not disappointed in what you find there.

iaink Feb 19th 2010 4:03 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8358138)
In hockey they call it addition by subtraction.

Do you happen to have the lotto numbers for tonights draw in mind?

PaulOK Feb 19th 2010 4:06 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by mocol (Post 8358130)
If you had found a steady job when you got here do you think you would be feeling differently about the place now - I suspect you might be.

I reckon he'd be dancing down Stephen Avenue, wearing a 'Canada' hockey jersey, carrying a Tim Horton's Coffee, whistling Gordon Lightfoot's, "Alberta Bound" and merrily greeting every Black, Brown and Asian person who came his way! :rofl:

mocol Feb 19th 2010 4:09 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by PaulOK (Post 8358181)
I reckon he'd be dancing down Stephen Avenue, wearing a 'Canada' hockey jersey, carrying a Tim Horton's Coffee, whistling Gordon Lightfoot's, "Alberta Bound" and merrily greeting every Black, Brown and Asian person who came his way! :rofl:

Funnily enough that wasn't the vision I had!

mrwilson Feb 19th 2010 4:31 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8358138)
In hockey they call it addition by subtraction.

:cool:

mrwilson Feb 19th 2010 4:32 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 
:rofl:

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8358155)
No, you didnt need to say that.

See you in a couple of weeks:rolleyes:


rwin Feb 19th 2010 4:34 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert (Post 8357817)
As a final comment regarding Canada...

Really?

iaink Feb 19th 2010 4:38 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by rwin (Post 8358273)
Really?

Final one for a while anyway.

Lets not kick a man while hes down and unable to defend himself please.

Oink Feb 19th 2010 10:30 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 
I don't want to open up old wounds but I find this negativity about Canada and Canadians a bit saddening. Some of us have embarked on such a journey to realize our dreams and have a better life for our family. I know not every shoe will fit everyone but if we could just try and see the positives we can all achieve our potential. To answer the original question, I came to Canada to be happy. :thumbup:

Novocastrian Feb 19th 2010 10:46 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8359121)
I don't want to open up old wounds but I find this negativity about Canada and Canadians a bit saddening. Some of us have embarked on such a journey to realize our dreams and have a better life for our family. I know not every shoe will fit everyone but if we could just try and see the positives we can all achieve our potential. To answer the original question, I came to Canada to be happy. :thumbup:

Where's that Oinki that I suggested?

Jingsamichty Feb 19th 2010 10:50 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8359121)
I don't want to open up old wounds but I find this negativity about Canada and Canadians a bit saddening. Some of us have embarked on such a journey to realize our dreams and have a better life for our family. I know not every shoe will fit everyone but if we could just try and see the positives we can all achieve our potential. To answer the original question, I came to Canada to be happy. :thumbup:

... it's true we'll make a better day, just you and me.:thumbup:

Devil Girl Feb 19th 2010 11:21 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 
I have not had time to read through this thread yet:

However the reason why I would like to move to Canada is because I would like to. I am not sure what it is, but something just draws me there.

I am happy living where I am at the moment, but I know I do not want to live here for the rest of my life.

If I am not able to get to Canada then I will move to the highlands.

dboy Feb 19th 2010 11:55 pm

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8359121)
I don't want to open up old wounds but I find this negativity about Canada and Canadians a bit saddening. Some of us have embarked on such a journey to realize our dreams and have a better life for our family. I know not every shoe will fit everyone but if we could just try and see the positives we can all achieve our potential. To answer the original question, I came to Canada to be happy. :thumbup:

where's the punchline?

chrisfromusa Feb 20th 2010 12:05 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert (Post 8357919)
whats the story with USA then?
Looks like machining jobs are advertised by the hundreds:blink:

That may be so but, can't emigrate here for a machining job, not even Canadians can unless they are eligible under the TN Visa


Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 8357896)
:fingerscrossed: your exit from Canada won't take too long as your tiresome rants on this forum are rather tiresome. We get it...you don't like Canada, Canada doesn't like you and it is all because 'immigrants' are taking all of the jobs. The irony in this is unbelievable.

Partially, it's a known fact that British people are 'expats' and everyone else are immigrants. Plus add to the fact that British people come visit the U.S. and Canada and think they are entitled to live here simply because they speak English and both of our countries used to be British colonies. Hell not even Americans think that when moving to Canada!

Novocastrian Feb 20th 2010 12:07 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Devil Girl (Post 8359206)
I have not had time to read through this thread yet:

However the reason why I would like to move to Canada is because I would like to. I am not sure what it is, but something just draws me there.

I am happy living where I am at the moment, but I know I do not want to live here for the rest of my life.

If I am not able to get to Canada then I will move to the highlands.

I'm glad that you're catching on. You too can contribute to the Oinki.

chrisfromusa Feb 20th 2010 12:11 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert (Post 8358020)
Mocol
For the first six months of living in calgary, you get the impression that everythings sweet, people are friendly - decent food and a transport system that beats all the UK has to offer. Then as time goes on you begin to realise the rose tinted glasses you previously took off, should of stayed on.:unsure:

Lot of Brits think that about Florida when they realize how expensive it is to live there. And California.....and Arizona......and parts of Texas......and Hawaii. Coming on vacation here is nothing like living here, especially in winter, it's nice in winter but horrendously hot for most of the year unless you're from the South like me

Oink Feb 20th 2010 12:17 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dboy (Post 8359279)
where's the punchline?

Such cynicism. :rolleyes:

Life isn't worth living unless you're willing to take some big chances and go for broke. Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home.

chrisfromusa Feb 20th 2010 12:17 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Devil Girl (Post 8359206)
I have not had time to read through this thread yet:

However the reason why I would like to move to Canada is because I would like to. I am not sure what it is, but something just draws me there.

I am happy living where I am at the moment, but I know I do not want to live here for the rest of my life.

If I am not able to get to Canada then I will move to the highlands.

US is better, at least 4/5 of my country isn't frozen tundra :rolleyes:

Oink Feb 20th 2010 12:19 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by chrisfromusa (Post 8359329)
US is better, at least 4/5 of my country isn't frozen tundra :rolleyes:

I lived there for years and trust me, it isn't.

chrisfromusa Feb 20th 2010 12:20 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8359335)
I lived there for years and trust me, it isn't.

I know :p I was being sarcastic just poking fun at my poor northernly neighbors :) Though it is pretty cold here in winter too, my state borders Ontario ;)

hereandthere Feb 20th 2010 12:20 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by chrisfromusa (Post 8359308)
That may be so but, can't emigrate here for a machining job, not even Canadians can unless they are eligible under the TN Visa



Partially, it's a known fact that British people are 'expats' and everyone else are immigrants. Plus add to the fact that British people come visit the U.S. and Canada and think they are entitled to live here simply because they speak English and both of our countries used to be British colonies. Hell not even Americans think that when moving to Canada!

I think you might be right about the sense of entitlement. I would also add that:

1. Most British people think that they can move to the USA in the same way they can Canada and Australia (although both those countries are now making it much harder to get in like America)

2. Most Americans think anyone can come to "the land of the free" when it fact it's mainly just illegal immigrants, refugees, K1 visas and specialist job transfers.

Oink Feb 20th 2010 12:22 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by chrisfromusa (Post 8359338)
I know :p I was being sarcastic just poking fun at my poor northernly neighbors :) Though it is pretty cold here in winter too, my state borders Ontario ;)

Its lovely and warm here in Vancouver. :thumbup:

Novocastrian Feb 20th 2010 12:29 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8359348)
Its lovely and warm here in Vancouver. :thumbup:

But this is just transient. You should put a penny aside for a rainy day and not live only in the moment but embrace the sweep of history.

chrisfromusa Feb 20th 2010 12:30 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by hereandthere (Post 8359341)
I think you might be right about the sense of entitlement. I would also add that:

1. Most British people think that they can move to the USA in the same way they can Canada and Australia (although both those countries are now making it much harder to get in like America)

2. Most Americans think anyone can come to "the land of the free" when it fact it's mainly just illegal immigrants, refugees, K1 visas and specialist job transfers.

Regarding your points:

1. I've noticed for many their first choice is the U.S. (mainly Florida, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, and California aka the sunbelt and tropics) then they find out they can't move here because their education is not enough/not readily recognized and a Canadian has higher priority over a job position than a Brit (not counting Americans and immigrants already living here, again mostly due to education. Employers prefer Canadian graduates). If that doesn't work, then Australia (mostly Perth, Queensland and Sydney), and then Canada. So basically form many many many responses I've met in the forums, Brits US and Australia bound mostly do it for climate-related reasons, however Brits Canada bound seem to do it for fondness of Canada (I don't think it's a bad place at all, I think it's better than here even)

2. Yeah but only conservative Americans think that we're being overrun by immigrants. The liberals think there isn't enough


Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8359348)
Its lovely and warm here in Vancouver. :thumbup:

Shut it :p

Novocastrian Feb 20th 2010 12:36 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by chrisfromusa (Post 8359366)
Regarding your points:

1. I've noticed for many their first choice is the U.S. (mainly Florida, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, and California aka the sunbelt and tropics) then they find out they can't move here because their education is not enough/not readily recognized and a Canadian has higher priority over a job position than a Brit (not counting Americans and immigrants already living here, again mostly due to education. Employers prefer Canadian graduates). If that doesn't work, then Australia (mostly Perth, Queensland and Sydney), and then Canada. So basically form many many many responses I've met in the forums, Brits US and Australia bound mostly do it for climate-related reasons, however Brits Canada bound seem to do it for fondness of Canada (I don't think it's a bad place at all, I think it's better than here even)

2. Yeah but only conservative Americans think that we're being overrun by immigrants. The liberals think there isn't enough



Shut it :p

This is t'rifficaly interesting, but largely nonsense.

Still, what's new about that?

blue monday Feb 20th 2010 12:46 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by chrisfromusa (Post 8359366)
Regarding your points:

1. I've noticed for many their first choice is the U.S. (mainly Florida, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, and California aka the sunbelt and tropics) then they find out they can't move here because their education is not enough/not readily recognized and a Canadian has higher priority over a job position than a Brit (not counting Americans and immigrants already living here, again mostly due to education. Employers prefer Canadian graduates). If that doesn't work, then Australia (mostly Perth, Queensland and Sydney), and then Canada. So basically form many many many responses I've met in the forums, Brits US and Australia bound mostly do it for climate-related reasons, however Brits Canada bound seem to do it for fondness of Canada (I don't think it's a bad place at all, I think it's better than here even)




Shut it :p

A recent survey into where expats go had Oz as the most popular, Canada the second most popular and Third - well it wasn't uncle sams country it was Thailand. There are plenty of places i'd rather live than America and it appears im not alone.

dboy Feb 20th 2010 12:48 am

Re: Why move to Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8359328)
Such cynicism. :rolleyes:

Life isn't worth living unless you're willing to take some big chances and go for broke. Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home.

My cynicism was directed at you and not at what you were saying, which, if not a wind up, is very true.


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