Why do you want to move to Canada
Nov 4th 2009, 4:39 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Saying that, there's nothing i would love more than to spend years of my life and hard earned personal / tax payers money on career building qualifications only to put it in a drawer and start something completely different
That said, i'm on my 3rd career path. What a hypocrite
Nov 4th 2009, 4:40 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Diversity was a key element in our decision to move to the Vancouver area. The life experience of an Asian person in Britain and Vancouver are wholly different. In Britain you are an outsider, and constantly reminded of the fact. In the Canada we experience the only limit to being "one of us" is the extent you want to join in.
Oink is obviously referring to a different aspect of culture, but in terms of quality of life this is much more important.
I also agree with The Aviator about the business culture. There is a prevailing attitude of "if you want to give it a go, then give it a go".
Oink is obviously referring to a different aspect of culture, but in terms of quality of life this is much more important.
I also agree with The Aviator about the business culture. There is a prevailing attitude of "if you want to give it a go, then give it a go".
Secondly, and I don't mean to be pedantic here but Canada is not really known as an international hot bed of economic innovation and dynamism.
Nov 4th 2009, 4:40 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
It's been mentioned on here before and it's all a matter of perception. If by moving across the Atlantic allows you perceive your new "home" to be less dangerous, healthier, sane, and better for your children then that's all that matters. Whether in fact it's actually true in real terms is debatable.
The statistical data suggests that is not as safe here as in England, but people prefer personal perspectives rather than group averages, One thing to note is it’s much easier in Canada to pretend the problem doesn’t exist than it is in the UK
Nov 4th 2009, 4:45 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Very true.. its been debated on here many times
The statistical data suggests that is not as safe here as in England, but people prefer personal perspectives rather than group averages, One thing to note is it’s much easier in Canada to pretend the problem doesn’t exist than it is in the UK
The statistical data suggests that is not as safe here as in England, but people prefer personal perspectives rather than group averages, One thing to note is it’s much easier in Canada to pretend the problem doesn’t exist than it is in the UK
I agree.
I think many people have romantic notions of life in Canada. That it is somehow safer or better for kids is one of those romantic notions, if not a downright myth perpetuated by people in Britain. I mean, it's no more or no less better for raising kids - it's just different. Different lifestyle opportunities, different value systems, different pressures on the kids from society, etc.
Nov 4th 2009, 4:46 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Bless 'em
Nov 4th 2009, 4:48 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
One of the deciding factors for your emigration was that in your opinion Asian immigrants have nicer time Canada than in England? How did you know this? Is your field cultural anthropology?
Secondly, and I don't mean to be pedantic here but Canada is not really known as an international hot bed of economic innovation and dynamism.
Secondly, and I don't mean to be pedantic here but Canada is not really known as an international hot bed of economic innovation and dynamism.
As for 'diversity' in Canada: everyone speaks the same, and differences are 'dumbed down'.....except for a tiny few geographical locations. There's more real diversity in UK, with better appreciation of the fact that we should not expect the world to be a mirror of ourselves.
Nov 4th 2009, 4:58 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Truth is nowhere will be perfect if the family have divergent feelings about moving or even staying put. Emigration is a massive undertaking with years of consequences, just as staying where you are requires unity of purpose and vision ie dont be half hearted about moving or staying.
As for 'diversity' in Canada: everyone speaks the same, and differences are 'dumbed down'.....except for a tiny few geographical locations. There's more real diversity in UK, with better appreciation of the fact that we should not expect the world to be a mirror of ourselves.
As for 'diversity' in Canada: everyone speaks the same, and differences are 'dumbed down'.....except for a tiny few geographical locations. There's more real diversity in UK, with better appreciation of the fact that we should not expect the world to be a mirror of ourselves.
Nov 4th 2009, 4:59 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Here's my 2p/2c worth:
My wife and I moved to Canada last year. The main reason for our move was because we didn't want our children grow up in England.
We found England to be an unsafe place to live in. Kids (most) there nowadays have no respect for their elders. There are chavs all over the place and it's never safe for you to walk outside at night. There was this constant stress in the head, whether you are on the bus or walking down the street.
I'm not saying that it's 100% safe in Canada but we don't feel that stress anymore. We feel that our kids will grow up in a healthier and more sane environment here than in England.
Would I let my kids walk down in the neighborhood by themselves when they are old enough here? Yes
In England? No chance
My wife and I moved to Canada last year. The main reason for our move was because we didn't want our children grow up in England.
We found England to be an unsafe place to live in. Kids (most) there nowadays have no respect for their elders. There are chavs all over the place and it's never safe for you to walk outside at night. There was this constant stress in the head, whether you are on the bus or walking down the street.
I'm not saying that it's 100% safe in Canada but we don't feel that stress anymore. We feel that our kids will grow up in a healthier and more sane environment here than in England.
Would I let my kids walk down in the neighborhood by themselves when they are old enough here? Yes
In England? No chance
There are approximately 12,276,600 kids in the UK under the age of 16. Not sure what you mean by most, but using a range of 51% to say 80%, you are stating that between 6 million and just under 10 million have no respect for their elders? Also curious as to how you are defining and measuring respect?
As for violent crime. Looking at Norfolk where I last lived. A large area, not a major urban county, but with some areas of real social deprivation and poverty (those things that often lie behind things like respect, crime etc) the rate is around 0.9 per 1000 people (and I suspect that there would be geographic concentrations of these). Hardly supports the idea that people in the UK don't or can't leave their home at night.
Do you really believe what you wrote?
Nov 4th 2009, 5:14 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Hmmm. I love generalisations.
There are approximately 12,276,600 kids in the UK under the age of 16. Not sure what you mean by most, but using a range of 51% to say 80%, you are stating that between 6 million and just under 10 million have no respect for their elders? Also curious as to how you are defining and measuring respect?
As for violent crime. Looking at Norfolk where I last lived. A large area, not a major urban county, but with some areas of real social deprivation and poverty (those things that often lie behind things like respect, crime etc) the rate is around 0.9 per 1000 people (and I suspect that there would be geographic concentrations of these). Hardly supports the idea that people in the UK don't or can't leave their home at night.
Do you really believe what you wrote?
There are approximately 12,276,600 kids in the UK under the age of 16. Not sure what you mean by most, but using a range of 51% to say 80%, you are stating that between 6 million and just under 10 million have no respect for their elders? Also curious as to how you are defining and measuring respect?
As for violent crime. Looking at Norfolk where I last lived. A large area, not a major urban county, but with some areas of real social deprivation and poverty (those things that often lie behind things like respect, crime etc) the rate is around 0.9 per 1000 people (and I suspect that there would be geographic concentrations of these). Hardly supports the idea that people in the UK don't or can't leave their home at night.
Do you really believe what you wrote?
Nov 4th 2009, 5:16 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Diversity was a key element in our decision to move to the Vancouver area. The life experience of an Asian person in Britain and Vancouver are wholly different. In Britain you are an outsider, and constantly reminded of the fact. In the Canada we experience the only limit to being "one of us" is the extent you want to join in.
I also agree with The Aviator about the business culture. There is a prevailing attitude of "if you want to give it a go, then give it a go".
I also agree with The Aviator about the business culture. There is a prevailing attitude of "if you want to give it a go, then give it a go".
The prospect of moving within the UK and staying there filled me with dread. Was pleased to leave. Part of the reason was for the kids, expand their horizons etc. I firmly feel they have done better in Canada than they would have in the UK and the broad diversity of the country allows more opportunity. There is a more open approach to business here as well, anything is possible. In Britain I found that once people trained in a career they tended to stick to it, as that is what they have always done. Not here, people change career like the weather. Try something different attitude and much more relaxed way of working, which some find hard to get accustomed to.
- 'broad diversity of the country allows more opportunity' - Wow, I could close my eyes and be listening to a politician here. Seriously, what does this mean? The UK is pretty diverse, with people from all over the world living there. How many black people do you see in Vancouver?
- 'There is a more open approach to business here as well, anything is possible' - Sorry, this may be your view/experience, but I do not agree at all. The UK is well known for it's innovation. My overriding impression of Canadian business is one of protectionism.
Nov 4th 2009, 5:19 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Secondly, and I don't mean to be pedantic here but Canada is not really known as an international hot bed of economic innovation and dynamism.
In my experience the barriers of background, accent, education and colour are much less of a factor here, and people are more likely to congratulate you on your success than be bitter or jealous of it.
Nov 4th 2009, 5:23 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
No, but I am perfectly capable of reading and writing, and asking questions and listening to the answers.
Maybe not, but it is still a place where someone from any background can build a life for themselves and their families by taking some modest risks and working hard.
In my experience the barriers of background, accent, education and colour are much less of a factor here, and people are more likely to congratulate you on your success than be bitter or jealous of it.
Maybe not, but it is still a place where someone from any background can build a life for themselves and their families by taking some modest risks and working hard.
In my experience the barriers of background, accent, education and colour are much less of a factor here, and people are more likely to congratulate you on your success than be bitter or jealous of it.
Nov 4th 2009, 5:29 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
- 'broad diversity of the country allows more opportunity' - Wow, I could close my eyes and be listening to a politician here. Seriously, what does this mean? The UK is pretty diverse, with people from all over the world living there. How many black people do you see in Vancouver?
- 'There is a more open approach to business here as well, anything is possible' - Sorry, this may be your view/experience, but I do not agree at all. The UK is well known for it's innovation. My overriding impression of Canadian business is one of protectionism.
Nov 4th 2009, 5:37 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Hmmm. I love generalisations.
There are approximately 12,276,600 kids in the UK under the age of 16. Not sure what you mean by most, but using a range of 51% to say 80%, you are stating that between 6 million and just under 10 million have no respect for their elders? Also curious as to how you are defining and measuring respect?
As for violent crime. Looking at Norfolk where I last lived. A large area, not a major urban county, but with some areas of real social deprivation and poverty (those things that often lie behind things like respect, crime etc) the rate is around 0.9 per 1000 people (and I suspect that there would be geographic concentrations of these). Hardly supports the idea that people in the UK don't or can't leave their home at night.
Do you really believe what you wrote?
There are approximately 12,276,600 kids in the UK under the age of 16. Not sure what you mean by most, but using a range of 51% to say 80%, you are stating that between 6 million and just under 10 million have no respect for their elders? Also curious as to how you are defining and measuring respect?
As for violent crime. Looking at Norfolk where I last lived. A large area, not a major urban county, but with some areas of real social deprivation and poverty (those things that often lie behind things like respect, crime etc) the rate is around 0.9 per 1000 people (and I suspect that there would be geographic concentrations of these). Hardly supports the idea that people in the UK don't or can't leave their home at night.
Do you really believe what you wrote?
Last edited by SambaDeAmigo; Nov 4th 2009 at 5:42 pm.
Nov 4th 2009, 5:47 pm
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
I've lived in Leeds and London and I wouldn't call them safe places. I've witnessed assaults on buses, violence with knives on trains, vandalism, racist abuse in public places. These are common in the UK and Brits have accepted it. Why should I accept it too when I have a chance make my kids live in a place (at least where I live now) where these acts aren't common?
