Why do you want to move to Canada
#17
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
The general election turnout is about 60%, so it is simply not true to say that "most people in the UK" so not vote.
DO you mean like the BNP or something? None of the main parties are advocating pulling out of the EU. You are possibly confusing not having a choice with agreement.
Are you saying that anybody who does not think that the "best" laws came from the EU is unintelligent. Unlike you I presume. Good lord.
BTW UK employees have had employment protection long before the EU came along.
If the electorate of the UK didn't like it, they could vote for parties that state they wish to withdraw the UK from the EU. People do not vote in sufficient numbers for this to happen, therefore, one must assume that the electorate of the UK is happy with the status quo.
You may not like it, but the majority of the electorate in the UK that are sufficiently concerned about it to vote evidently don't.
You may not like it, but the majority of the electorate in the UK that are sufficiently concerned about it to vote evidently don't.
When people actually take the time to look at the laws being enacted, most intelligent people will opine that the "best" laws come from the EU anyway. Without the EU, employees in the UK would have nothing like the protection they do. In my experience, most of the objections to laws enacted by the EU come from misinformed readers of articles written by lazy or biased reporters of tabloids in the UK who have nothing better to do than spout crap about "bananas that are not straight enough" etc.
BTW UK employees have had employment protection long before the EU came along.
#18
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Most people in the UK do not vote in National Elections. The EU, as I am sure you are aware, is made up of sovereign states that have agreed to "hand over" certain powers to the "federal" authority. The sovereign states retain exclusive control over all other areas.
If the electorate of the UK didn't like it, they could vote for parties that state they wish to withdraw the UK from the EU. People do not vote in sufficient numbers for this to happen, therefore, one must assume that the electorate of the UK is happy with the status quo.
You may not like it, but the majority of the electorate in the UK that are sufficiently concerned about it to vote evidently don't.
You may not like it, but the majority of the electorate in the UK that are sufficiently concerned about it to vote evidently don't.
The distinction I would draw between Britain and Australia/Canada/NZ is as follows. Politicians in the three latter countries are not perfect but it's fair to say that the majority know what country they belong to and believe in doing what is best for their country, even if that is misguided. It used to be that way in Britain. Whereas now, the majority of British politicians are more interested in serving the interests of the EU (effectively Brussels, Paris and Berlin) even if these conflict with vital British interests.
If or when the British electorate wakes up to this they may find at that point that EU membership will be as voluntary as that of the former Warsaw Pact.
#19
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
I'm gonna go for the "cos England's ***t" comment, can't argue with it and I have travelled the length and breadth of the country, the only happy people here are the ones with plenty of money, The rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer and the working class paying for all the f****** illegal immigrants and dole wallers/benefits cheats!!!
In my humble opinion which I am entitled to before someone gets all high and mighty!!!
In my humble opinion which I am entitled to before someone gets all high and mighty!!!
#20
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
As for Canada, I found it to be a friendly place with helpful, friendly people, clean parks, safe streets, relaxing driving conditions and of course the more for your money regarding housing always helps.
Add to this the breathtaking scenery and National Parks and clean air!!
Add to this the breathtaking scenery and National Parks and clean air!!
#21
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Joined: Aug 2008
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Hello there,
Ive already posted on this board under the "immigration" thread as my husband is thinking of moving to Canada, but im unsure.
Ive never been one that wants to live abroad, I dont know why, its just something Ive never thought of.
We were in Canada on holiday in the summer, and to be honest, when we came back home I really did miss Canada, and thought about it alot. My SIL (husbands sister) and her family live there, and we were very close to them before they moved to Canada last year and I do miss them very much.
My mum says theres nothing here (in GB) and we would be mad not to go, and my FIL and MIL say I should be thinking of our 2 kids because they will have a much better life in Canada than here. Why they think that I dont know because they have only been to Canada for 2 weeks before and that was with us, in the summer. They mean well and are only wanting the best for their grandchildren, but is moving to Canada the best thing for them?
Im now left feeling that if I dont go to Canada, people will be thinking that Im not doing whats best for my children, and that makes me very sad.
Is moving to Canada the best thing for us all?
Why did you want to move to Canada, and can I just ask how long does it roughly take for everything to go ahead? For my Sil it took approx 3 years.
Jackie
P.S Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.
Ive already posted on this board under the "immigration" thread as my husband is thinking of moving to Canada, but im unsure.
Ive never been one that wants to live abroad, I dont know why, its just something Ive never thought of.
We were in Canada on holiday in the summer, and to be honest, when we came back home I really did miss Canada, and thought about it alot. My SIL (husbands sister) and her family live there, and we were very close to them before they moved to Canada last year and I do miss them very much.
My mum says theres nothing here (in GB) and we would be mad not to go, and my FIL and MIL say I should be thinking of our 2 kids because they will have a much better life in Canada than here. Why they think that I dont know because they have only been to Canada for 2 weeks before and that was with us, in the summer. They mean well and are only wanting the best for their grandchildren, but is moving to Canada the best thing for them?
Im now left feeling that if I dont go to Canada, people will be thinking that Im not doing whats best for my children, and that makes me very sad.
Is moving to Canada the best thing for us all?
Why did you want to move to Canada, and can I just ask how long does it roughly take for everything to go ahead? For my Sil it took approx 3 years.
Jackie
P.S Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.
Its is the availability and affordability that makes a difference.
There is nothing in Canada I couldnt do in the UK but not sitting in traffic for an hour, not queueing and not feeling ripped off makes a big difference.
#22
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
If you have a decent quality of life now and you are reasonably happy, I would think very hard about moving here.
Things are not the same here as they were a few years ago, the major push factors for us at the time were the good exchange rate, booming economy, and my children being at that perfect age to move. 11 & 4.
Now you have a crap exchange rate and it's much harder to get a job. Having said that, if you are lucky enough to secure a decent job from the UK, go for it
Things are not the same here as they were a few years ago, the major push factors for us at the time were the good exchange rate, booming economy, and my children being at that perfect age to move. 11 & 4.
Now you have a crap exchange rate and it's much harder to get a job. Having said that, if you are lucky enough to secure a decent job from the UK, go for it
#23
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
The general election turnout is about 60%, so it is simply not true to say that "most people in the UK" so not vote.
DO you mean like the BNP or something? None of the main parties are advocating pulling out of the EU. You are possibly confusing not having a choice with agreement.
Are you saying that anybody who does not think that the "best" laws came from the EU is unintelligent. Unlike you I presume. Good lord.
BTW UK employees have had employment protection long before the EU came along.
DO you mean like the BNP or something? None of the main parties are advocating pulling out of the EU. You are possibly confusing not having a choice with agreement.
Are you saying that anybody who does not think that the "best" laws came from the EU is unintelligent. Unlike you I presume. Good lord.
BTW UK employees have had employment protection long before the EU came along.
#24
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
I'm gonna go for the "cos England's ***t" comment, can't argue with it and I have travelled the length and breadth of the country, the only happy people here are the ones with plenty of money, The rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer and the working class paying for all the f****** illegal immigrants and dole wallers/benefits cheats!!!
In my humble opinion which I am entitled to before someone gets all high and mighty!!!
In my humble opinion which I am entitled to before someone gets all high and mighty!!!
Economically the country is fcked though. Those things you have complained about will have to stop anyway as government spending needs to be cut significantly. The same will happen here when the stimulus bill comes in, however the UK's will be much higher.
Still, quite a bit of the UK is actually quite nice. Edinburgh, Dorset, Yorkshire Dales, Lake district etc.
#25
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,054
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
Life is what you make of it where ever you are. Some find a better life here in Canada (i did) others don't. As already stated, if you like your life and are well connected with family and friends, then think long and hard, especially if you are in stable, well paying employment. You will often hear people referring to the push rather than the pulls. That is some leave because they believe (rightly or wrongly) that the UK has gone to the dogs and there are limited opportunities for themselves and their kids and better ones overseas. Other may leave simply for specific work experience, adventure, for a change etc (or like some of us to be with a foreign spouse).
Attitude is a big one and uprooting one self is a major stressor, wrought with challenges. Take a look at the heading back to the uk thread. Many who do want to go home, seem to have found that their lives were no better (although it amazes me that some give up so quickly after only a few months) and ironically seem to head home for the very reasons they left (rose tinted glasses on backwards?).
Not trying to put you off, but it really is a huge decision and yes you can always go back, though financially and practically speaking it's not quite that straight forward.
I also believe that different stages in your life impact your ability to adapt to a move. 25 with no real prospects or responsibility in one place is very different than mid 40s with kids and secure job and house to sell.
I would have to think very long and hard about ever leaving vancouver at this stage in my life, as I would simply have way too much to lose and very little to gain.
Attitude is a big one and uprooting one self is a major stressor, wrought with challenges. Take a look at the heading back to the uk thread. Many who do want to go home, seem to have found that their lives were no better (although it amazes me that some give up so quickly after only a few months) and ironically seem to head home for the very reasons they left (rose tinted glasses on backwards?).
Not trying to put you off, but it really is a huge decision and yes you can always go back, though financially and practically speaking it's not quite that straight forward.
I also believe that different stages in your life impact your ability to adapt to a move. 25 with no real prospects or responsibility in one place is very different than mid 40s with kids and secure job and house to sell.
I would have to think very long and hard about ever leaving vancouver at this stage in my life, as I would simply have way too much to lose and very little to gain.
#26
Joined: Sep 2008
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Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
I can see only one reason to immigrate to another country and make it successful - Change for the sake of change.
Most immigrating and expecting an sudden change in the quality of life is likley going to be disappointed. The exception would perhaps be those coming from under developed countries, which contrary to what some may think, the UK is not one of them.
Most immigrating and expecting an sudden change in the quality of life is likley going to be disappointed. The exception would perhaps be those coming from under developed countries, which contrary to what some may think, the UK is not one of them.
#27
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
I can see only one reason to immigrate to another country and make it successful - Change for the sake of change.
Most immigrating and expecting an sudden change in the quality of life is likley going to be disappointed. The exception would perhaps be those coming from under developed countries, which contrary to what some may think, the UK is not one of them.
Most immigrating and expecting an sudden change in the quality of life is likley going to be disappointed. The exception would perhaps be those coming from under developed countries, which contrary to what some may think, the UK is not one of them.
#28
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 60
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
There's really no doubt that the cliche of, "the grass is always greener on the other side" is applicable with most cases of immigration. That's the whole point of it, yes, but it is also misleading.
And, as for those who claim that they have experienced everything that the UK has to offer, I will say this. Unless you are approaching your 220th birthday, no. You have not. If you ever experience everything which the UK has to offer, I will be long dead, so you will not be able to brag about it to me. Quick-temperedness and impatience are not good motivating factors for immigrating to another country, especially one which isn't the UK.
There are plenty of good reasons that people have, and have thought carefully about, for moving to Canada. And, I respect that. But, claiming that the UK is not a good country is simply incorrect, almost to a comical extent.
And, as for those who claim that they have experienced everything that the UK has to offer, I will say this. Unless you are approaching your 220th birthday, no. You have not. If you ever experience everything which the UK has to offer, I will be long dead, so you will not be able to brag about it to me. Quick-temperedness and impatience are not good motivating factors for immigrating to another country, especially one which isn't the UK.
There are plenty of good reasons that people have, and have thought carefully about, for moving to Canada. And, I respect that. But, claiming that the UK is not a good country is simply incorrect, almost to a comical extent.
#29
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
These type of questions always draw out a myriad of response that trigger strong reactions.
Generally people move for different reasons and have different perspectives on the state of the UK. If you shoot at it then a mass of people complain about your post and if you claim the UK is fine and why do people see Canada as anyway specifically better, then a different group rise to the bait and put their points/opinons forward.
For me I grew angry with the politicians, the wilful targeting of my income bracket as the county's cashpoint machine, the destruction of my pension fund plus the seemingly ever increasing hand over of our sovereignty to the EU. If I was going to pay high taxes I may as well live somewhere with a better quality of life .... and the rest is history.
I now (in nearly four years) have a better house, car, job, work - life balance, than I had from 1996 through to 2005 in the UK. during which my life style seemed to be one of spiralling down and work was overwhelming my time.
Generally people move for different reasons and have different perspectives on the state of the UK. If you shoot at it then a mass of people complain about your post and if you claim the UK is fine and why do people see Canada as anyway specifically better, then a different group rise to the bait and put their points/opinons forward.
For me I grew angry with the politicians, the wilful targeting of my income bracket as the county's cashpoint machine, the destruction of my pension fund plus the seemingly ever increasing hand over of our sovereignty to the EU. If I was going to pay high taxes I may as well live somewhere with a better quality of life .... and the rest is history.
I now (in nearly four years) have a better house, car, job, work - life balance, than I had from 1996 through to 2005 in the UK. during which my life style seemed to be one of spiralling down and work was overwhelming my time.
#30
Re: Why do you want to move to Canada
To go to the orginal questions:
I'd like to experience living abroad (again, but only if 4 months counts!)
The place I am aiming for is beautiful - lake, mountains, ski resorts
The weather - hot dry summers, snowy winters & less wind & rain than uk
Proximity to USA where I like to visit (however depends which side given E - W distance)
Some family are already there.
Love to travel in Canada - whales, bears, sea etc
Am looking for partial retirement (work but less hassle job) than here
No kids though so I don't have that to consider.
good luck with your choice - it has taken me 4-5 yrs to make my mind up, so I would suggest you take as long as you need to be comfortable with the choice.
I'd like to experience living abroad (again, but only if 4 months counts!)
The place I am aiming for is beautiful - lake, mountains, ski resorts
The weather - hot dry summers, snowy winters & less wind & rain than uk
Proximity to USA where I like to visit (however depends which side given E - W distance)
Some family are already there.
Love to travel in Canada - whales, bears, sea etc
Am looking for partial retirement (work but less hassle job) than here
No kids though so I don't have that to consider.
good luck with your choice - it has taken me 4-5 yrs to make my mind up, so I would suggest you take as long as you need to be comfortable with the choice.