Why do you want to leave the UK?
 

Maybe this has been covered before, but it might be too far back for me to find....but as a many-years resident of Canada wondering whether to return, I'd like to know why people want to leave the UK.............so, in more than a nutshell, why?

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got back visit for a fortnight that will sort your head out....there is a huge exodus of British citizens for one reason, the country is going down the toilet...FAST. No respect, no community spirit, over priced, under policed, drunken teenagers causing trouble everywhere at the weekends, need i go on.

Chris

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I find visits home actually more confusing - I always feel so comfortable there - and I do go for a couple for months at a time, not weeks. I've been here a long time (for me), and find people leave for different reasons from mine all those years ago.....I'm interested to see what those reasons are now

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I have 2 young children and there is no way on this earth i want them growing up in what the UK has become, over here they can look forward to so much the activities we can do as a family summer or winter. In the UK i wouldn't let them play out in the street, and was dreading them becoming teenagers over there. The new happy slapping culture is just another example of how parents have failed to install any mutual respect in kids over there. What is the point is bringing up your kids the right way, to respect each each, work hard, etc etc, if they are going to get dragged down by the majority of kids around them.

Chris

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Two words: property prices.

All the other stuff depends on where you live, but Canada's property prices are still way cheaper than anything you could pick up here.

Example: In Saskatoon, a city where prices have really been on the rise, CAN$200,000 will still buy you a house with 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, a couple of living rooms, a kitchen and a couple of spare rooms. In the UK you'd have to pretty much double that price (at least) to get anything approaching comparison, and you'll have to be completely flexible about where you live.

I know Saskatoon's not typical of Canada as a whole, but it gives a fairly good picture of the house price difference.

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For me it's the chavs and influx of EU 'migrants', I am a big bloke, bug I just don't feel safe.

The UK has opened it's doors to the HUGE EU massive, allowing the polish, Czech, Romanian. etc etc... exedus.

I have paid into the system for 20+ years and it's these scroungers that are not allowing the UK Government to fulfil their promises to the pensioners and give them back the £££ they have spent all their time paying it\and the NHS can't cope, the schools are bursting at the seams 35+ per class.

I read a report recently that the UK was not even in the top 40 of county's education acheivers,Canada was number 4.

So rather than spend the rest of my life watching my back, I'd ratrher enjoy the quality of life I know it's coming....as soon as I can sell the bloody house!

Rant over~
Chris.

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MY oh has lived within a mile of where he was born for 45 yrs - Cheltenham Spa in the Cotswolds - and very pleasant it used to be. I have been here for 10 years and in that time the place has just gone downwards. The icing on the cake that made us make the decision to leave was him walking home from our local at around 23.30hrs one summer eve and 5 youngsters aged aroun 13-15 passed him on pushbikes and hurled abuse at him - stupidly he replied ' what did you say? ' and they cam back tohim, surrounded him, asked him for a fight and all pulled screwdrivers on him and went to stab him..... he is 2nd Dan in Karate and decided that he would be better off leaving quick - so he pushed then and ran. The sad thing is we did not go to the police as they do nothing around here - and he felt so angry and humiliated but these kids thought they were supehuman and truly did not give a toss. He said theyseemed to be drugged out of their heads!

We do not go out late at night, especially into Town, we are alarmed and double locked at home and we have still had break-ins and thefts.
UK is becoming so violent, and people just dont seem to care anymore.

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I think its for us anyway the adventure, we have a good life, live in a nice place, full of EU but that doesn't bother me too much,except for the spongers but that goes for all spongers, the chavs do and the drink and drugs,
wonder how much you get in Canada, mostly we want to go because we can and for our son to have an outdoors upbringing even in the winter which we don't have here, recent survey showed 26 % of british people are considering leaving the UK in 2008 :blink:

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There is no difference in EU Migrants coming to the UK for a better life than you going to Canada for a better life.

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Hester's Way just isn't like it used to be :( ;) :p

I know what you mean - I used to work in Montpellier and there are some areas of the town I'd definately feel uncomfortable walking through in an evening.

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Rubbish, there is a big difference between those going to the UK and scrounging and us coming to Canada and grafting..

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Chill young Portsmouth dude. That's not really the comparison he made, is it?

Complaining about immigration per se is rather ironic when you're a potential immigrant yourself - I believe that was the point Danny was making.

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Maybe not the reason for the move but the DEMANDS they insist on and Complain about when they get here is a different matter.

Protest groups organised when a local coucil refused planning permission for a mosque...so the council overturned it...let them knock down the Christian church and replace it with the mosque.

Having local schools closed down to because the results were so bad in English and Maths tests...reason 52% of the students can't speak English.

Protesting about school uniforms

Demanding interpreters

Commiting crime and not being deported because the government have no balls

etc etc etc

Most do however earn a good living and work hard.

The difference is when we move to Canada we will RESPECT the nation we have moved to. Live by their laws and culture and it is WE who have to fit in there not Canada bow down on bended knee to please me or my family...if we don't like then we can pack up and P**S off but the spinless pricks running this country aint got the balls to say or deliver that.

This country has been lost and will never be able to recover from the mess it is in. SO MANY people slated Enoch Powel for being racist when he made his statements years ago and maybe he was but you have to say alot of what he spoke about has actualy happened...and that is not meant to be racist in any way shape or form.

e.g.

When communities' campaign to maintain customs inappropriate in Britain it is much to be regretted. Working in Britain, particularly in the public services, they should be prepared to accept the terms and conditions of their employment. To claim special communal rights (or should they say rites?) leads to a dangerous fragmentation within society.

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What? Wait!

Rich, are you from Cheltenham??

I was living there up until september, between St Pauls and Pitville.

Fell off my chair the other day when I saw Swedish TV was to start broadcasting Risky Business about The Big Sleep in Cheltenham near Cambury Place. I had my office down there.

All I saw now was "Hester's Way" and dropped my jaw.

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There are plenty of urban areas in Canada where having a white face can feel uncomfortable and/or alien. Don't expect some aspects of imigration to be different here, but in my experience there's more tolerance and acceptance of individuals desire to maintain cultural ties and lifestyles than in the UK.

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Nope. APart from "I hate immigrants. It's time to move to another country" and not realizing that what you do is turn in to an immigrant.

A tad bit hypocritical, me thinks.

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I commuted to Cheltenham for work for over 8yrs - lived in various small villages near Evesham. Worked in Montpellier Walk, Imperial Square, Crescent Place and in Whittington too. Lots of good memories of that area.

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I totally agree with Pompeboy, we are all coming to Canada to work. But it is a shame that the UK cannot learn lessons in the area of immigration as Canada will not let you in unless one can contribute, have finances, have a good education or start own business.

It has been reported that due to the backlog of immigration applications which have been piled in a room for 10 years these applicants will be granted automatic rights to UK citizenship - both applicant and all their family members.

Don't get me wrong - I do not object to anyone coming to UK so long as they work just like I have too! Some immigrants have come from awlful backgrounds, war, genecide, lost all their family etc.

Unfortunately this country has lost it's mind with all the political correctness, criminals with more rights than the victims............ the list is simply endless! England has no future for anyone, especially youngsters - parental control, government control, police control has simply gone.

We are leaving and it couldn't be sooner! I will never step foot back in this country...........why would I?

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I understand I will be a migrant when I get there, but it's cost me a zillion pounds, months and months of hard focused graft, I've had jump through 7 hoops, sell everything I've worked the last 22 years for and get a job, and prove I will be 100% self sufficient without taking $0.01 from the Canadian system, this is all even before I do actually get there, that was my point, not taring all EU with the same brush, I appologise if I have been mis-understood.

Chris.

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That's quite a statement. Suggests anarchy is rife.

You might enjoy a book written by my grandfather on the subject ;) He was an Italian migrant to the UK, BTW.

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Ok I am chilled...sorry..Lol

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Plenty of immigrant Brits moan and complain about life in Canada, especially when it comes to work. They cannot seem to understand that their 10yrs experience in [insert job here] that they got in the UK, is now worthless in Canada. It's the same for the Polish Doctor who is now working as a dishwasher in some London restaurant.

Anyone who says they are leaving the UK because of the influx of immigrants has got a nasty shock waiting for them when they arrive in Canada...

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'takes rose tinted spec's off' - nope......still better than the UK

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:rofl:LMAO:rofl: Oh dearie me. If that statement wasn't so utterly and completely wrong, it would be funny. Have you any idea what the single largest immigration class into Canada is? Yes that would be FAMILY, the large extended families from countries that you loathe so much, who also come into the UK. The large families where only one member speaks English and the rest do not, the large families who often end up on Income Assistance within months of arrival, the large families who have little or no education from their home countries and do not ever integrate into the stereotypical Canadian way of life, because they do not have to here. People from these familiar backgrounds do not start sustainable businesses with money they bring in. They do attract the same level of ignorance though.

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Once again I will say that I dont think its because of the influx of immigrants to the UK taht is the main problem, its the sad fact that they have to do **** all when they get there..they are given all the financial help, housing, mobile phones, money to open a bank account etc..etc..etc..
Thats not to say that all immigrants to the UK are spongers but they should not be letting any in that are not prepared to speak or at least learn the language and pay their own way
All the stuff that most people have to work for years to get..
When you come to Canada you have to work, fit in and earn your keep..and most if not all the schools teach and speak English/French..

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Many, if not most, of those from the new EU states (eg Poland) etc are not making any demands. Just getting on with working and building a life for themselves, or daving up enough money to take back home.

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I agree, before I left I knew many Polish workers, bus drivers etc. and in general the Poles were never a problem to the local Police..Now The Albanians were a different matter, a certain knife carrying culture came in to play with them.

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Immigration may be a factor in the horrid state of affairs in some areas of the UK, it is in London for sure, but I don’t think that the blame is only on the immigrants or their receptive communities, but the British culture and government not having any infrastructure to integrate them. There is a crisis in some areas in schools, employment, NHS & housing.

The reason we called it a day, was shortly after 3 break-ins on our cars in a couple of months, my 12 year old daughter traveling on a bus with a friend. Was set on by 9 Asian teenagers, one of who stamped on her face till she was unconscious fracturing her skull. I thought that seeing the police doing such an excellent job, and the courts giving out a proper sentence would make us feel better, it didn’t. for a start Canada has a Samaritan law. The 25 or so passengers who did nothing in the UK would have been more likely to have done something. I can’t really see racially motivated crime being so prevalent in Canada.

The state pension I have paid into for the last 20+ years will have no value when I retire at 65.

The assault is only the urgency of immigrating, overall quality of life is the one that make Canada the only choice.

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Never said I was did I

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Do they not...many don't but MANY DO...one very small point they let them get away with is the road tax on vehicles Millions of pounds a year are lost on this because they let them get away with brining in vehicles un MOT'd and Taxed.

I have no prob with the Poles I actualy served with polish ex-soldiers who have made a masive contribution to this country in the past abd now the present...As mentioned Albanians, Romanians etc asre a different matter.

HOWEVER

The British attitude is my main reason for leaving this HOLE which is toooo big to mention here but has been covered already in this thread,

Chavs and scumbags to mention a few.........of all races White , Black, Asia or whatever

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Ive paid my taxes for last 20 years, wanted to send my daughter to School in London and was told backlog of students was 65.
I siad I can't believe this , headteacher told me that we have 3 students waiting to join school every day and list is growing. She said 95% CHILDREN English is not first language and majority are from Europe
. I said thankyou......

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Where do I start?

How much time have you got?

Hang on, I'm not in UK. Can we change the title to "Why do you want to leave Europe?"

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Would the last person to leave the UK, please turn off the lights?

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I left to escape idiots like the_tones_guy, Pompeyboy and DAVIE_MAC. I wish you gits would stop following me around. Seriously, it was the attitudes of the Brits that used to piss me off a whole lot more than the immigrants.

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Hi Bazzz, You don't know me so what's your problem?:frown:

Bit judgemental arn't you?:confused:

Who are you to call people with an opinion names? You're the one with a problem my friend:thumbdown:.

Chris.:)

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You can't use apostrophes properly and you quote headlines from the Sun as some form of wisdom. That's enough for me.

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I did not say I was an english teacher. FFS.. they let any old sun reading idiot/chav in to Canada then I think.

Gotta get into my white van now.

Night Mr Bazzz.

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hi

im very interested with your thread. interesting to see why people want to leave the UK.

i want to leave for many reasons however i agree with most of your replys.

Im just confused as ive just been quoted on one of my threads as 'we those who state we leave for a 'new life' are the ones who are unhappy and usually come back.


sorry guys but perhaps you can help me but isnt that the reason most people go to get a new life. A better one.

To say the least i was quite upset by that

the uk is falling apart, why not bring your kids up in a better environment

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Take most things you read here with a pinch of salt and become thicker skinned - no point in getting upset by the opinion of someone posting on the internet.

New life, different life, better life, whatever the reason, as long as you're happy that's all that matters.