Originally Posted by Homesick Canadian (Post 11347787)

That's an excellent point. Every single British person I meet tells me that they want to emigrate to Canada, have a friend who did it and loves it, etc. The Brits I've met in Canada seem to love it. So I definitely think a fair bit of the opinions here are biased.

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 11347833)

An opinion cant be biased, by definition;)

Originally Posted by Homesick Canadian (Post 11347835)

We can agree to disagree! The argument of everything being relative can be applied to anything and just winds up leading to cyclical debating. I definitely feel opinions can be biased, it's a matter of basic logic. Unless someone is so broad minded as to weigh both sides of an argument equally, without slanting in one direction for personal or financial gains, or even just out of general emotionality (e.g. home sickness, haha). Media are a prime example of biased opinion. Anything dogmatic - religion and science - is always biased. It's only when we marry all sides of an argument objectively that we can say something is truly unbiased, and that's a rarity! Special when you see it, but still rare. Fingers crossed we take the next evolutionary leap soon. :fingerscrossed:

Originally Posted by Homesick Canadian (Post 11347747)

One reason I'm hesitant to raise children here is the obvious racism/prejudice, as this poster illustrated despite having taken his/hers across the pond.

Originally Posted by Homesick Canadian (Post 11347747)

You win the prize for most offensive, prejudice comments I've ever read. Now I remember why I don't frequent forums.

Tattoos? Drug addiction? Oh, the horror! Please teach us your ways, oh Exalted Perfect One. Shed light on how you've gotten through life so pristinely, pleeease.

What you're referring to with your disgusting description is called the poverty epidemic, the physical manifestation of which takes different forms depending on the cultural context, i.e. the country you're in. Anyone moving to Canada to escape chavs, thinking there aren't any rude + poor people in Canada, is simply delusional. We have our version of poor people, no different to the UK. Our version of chavs are different to the British ones, I've never been harassed by any of them and there seems to be markedly less hatred/anger. You won't be shouted at if you walk by that particular demographic, whereas here they seem to want to intimidate everyone if they're looked at the wrong way. Then again, that can happen in any pub anyway according to what all the men I know say, so it seems there's just more pent up passive aggression in this country in general. One reason I'm hesitant to raise children here is the obvious racism/prejudice, as this poster illustrated despite having taken his/hers across the pond.

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11348022)

I was approached quite aggressively this morning by four Canadian "poor people" who were drinking openly ion public in a nice part of town, next to a popular student bus stop. TBH they were pretty lucky as it could of turned out quite badly for them but I contacted the local plod instead and to their credit they came rather quickly and made them move to less conspicuous place. But I suspect six more of these charmingly polite Canadians will be back there tomorrow hurling drunken abuse at the public.

Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 11348042)

TBH The homeless in DTES do seem to be getting a little more aggressive. Im not sure if its an influx of younger ones ? I go thru that area and The drive regularly. The regular panhandlers are polite and usually fairly happy,will chat etc but there definitely seems to be an undercurrent now.

I noticed that the "poor Canadians" in edmonton were definitely more aggressive than in Van - maybe they don't smoke enough ?

Originally Posted by Homesick Canadian (Post 11347835)

We can agree to disagree! The argument of everything being relative can be applied to anything and just winds up leading to cyclical debating. I definitely feel opinions can be biased, it's a matter of basic logic. Unless someone is so broad minded as to weigh both sides of an argument equally, without slanting in one direction for personal or financial gains, or even just out of general emotionality (e.g. home sickness, haha). Media are a prime example of biased opinion. Anything dogmatic - religion and science - is always biased. It's only when we marry all sides of an argument objectively that we can say something is truly unbiased, and that's a rarity! Special when you see it, but still rare. Fingers crossed we take the next evolutionary leap soon. :fingerscrossed:

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11348054)

This wasn't in the DTES area, it was on W. Broadway next to a smart supermarket and new condominium building.

Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 11348086)

What were you doing south of False Creek??? ;)

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11348022)

I was approached quite aggressively this morning by four Canadian "poor people" who were drinking openly ion public in a nice part of town, next to a popular student bus stop. TBH they were pretty lucky as it could of turned out quite badly for them but I contacted the local plod instead and to their credit they came rather quickly and made them move to less conspicuous place. But I suspect six more of these charmingly polite Canadians will be back there tomorrow hurling drunken abuse at the public.

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11348087)

Ho ho. I'm not unsympathetic to homeless, poverty or addiction but I draw the line when you use these issues as an excuse to assault the public.

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 11348079)

Have you ever considered moving to Canada? I think you'd fit in well.

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 11347845)

An opinion cant be biased because it opinion, based on an individuals experiences and perception, not based on fact.

It can be different to your opinion, thats all. It would be a very boring world indeed if everyone thought and felt the same things.

Originally Posted by Gozit (Post 11348153)

She's Canadian, and wants to move back. (she's in UK right now) No wonder she hasn't fit in there.........