why buy "Made in China" ?
#151
Re: why buy "Made in China" ?
I'm not that familiar with the background to the assault on the Bretton Woods agreement, but wasn't that to do with the US administration at the time deciding to decouple the dollar from gold? And the subsequent run on gold in London? Perhaps I misunderstand, but I don't quite see what that has to do with the internet or with outsourcing...
#152
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Re: why buy "Made in China" ?
Governments do seem to be relying on the "entrepreneurs" to be able to set up businesses which provide the new employment but the reality is that doesn't seem to be happening. Labour do a lot of talking about encouraging entrepreneurship and people starting their own businesses but in reality it seems to amount to school leavers setting up a pizza delivery shop.
#153
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Ah, thanks - that makes more sense now. I still don't agree with you, mind
#154
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Were you serious BTW... your company pays the same salary and benefits to a computer engineer graduating from say Delhi as from say Waterloo, if they're doing comparable tasks and working in Delhi and Waterloo?
#155
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The standard practise is to send the guy from Delhi to work, not in Waterloo perhaps, but in Cincinnati or King of Prussia or Milton Keynes and to pay him what he would earn in Delhi. That's why H1B positions in thrall to Indian swe, I mean consulting firms, are considered hardship posts by the people doing the work. They take the positions, despite having to leave their families in India and live three to a room, in order to gat "American Experience". It's difficult to go from an H1B to legal residence in the US so it's not uncommon to move to Canada instead.
#156
Re: why buy "Made in China" ?
The standard practise is to send the guy from Delhi to work, not in Waterloo perhaps, but in Cincinnati or King of Prussia or Milton Keynes and to pay him what he would earn in Delhi. That's why H1B positions in thrall to Indian swe, I mean consulting firms, are considered hardship posts by the people doing the work. They take the positions, despite having to leave their families in India and live three to a room, in order to gat "American Experience". It's difficult to go from an H1B to legal residence in the US so it's not uncommon to move to Canada instead.
I don't know any colleagues in the US on H1-B who consider themselves on a hardship posting. US visa restrictions do mean that spouses on an H4 visa cannot work, so a dual income family may lose an income stream, but that is a result of US immigration policy and not a company's pay policy.
Last edited by Oakvillian; Mar 15th 2010 at 8:04 pm.
#157
Joined: Aug 2005
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Re: why buy "Made in China" ?
no, that's not quite what I said. The guy in Delhi would earn a comfortable amount by Delhi's standards; if he were posted to Waterloo he would get all sorts of additional allowances and benefits while here as an expat, so that his total package is not very different to a local employee's (there are, of course, significant implications for taxation etc as an expat, which I don't pretend to understand). If the Delhi graduate were to move to Waterloo as a permanent resident and continue to work for the company, then yes, he would be paid the same as a Waterloo graduate.
No, that's not standard practice at all - at least not here, and not today. If a consultant with a family is posted abroad for any significant period (longer than a couple of months, say) then that individual will have the choice to bring their family with them. That's pretty comparable to the conditions in which a Western consultant might be expected to operate. We do not expect our professionals to live three to a room, that's just so much nonsense. Some staff - typically younger and unmarried - may choose to share an apartment, in much the same way that I shared a rental flat with a couple of colleagues when I was younger.
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No, that's not standard practice at all - at least not here, and not today. If a consultant with a family is posted abroad for any significant period (longer than a couple of months, say) then that individual will have the choice to bring their family with them. That's pretty comparable to the conditions in which a Western consultant might be expected to operate. We do not expect our professionals to live three to a room, that's just so much nonsense. Some staff - typically younger and unmarried - may choose to share an apartment, in much the same way that I shared a rental flat with a couple of colleagues when I was younger.
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Last edited by Alan2005; Mar 15th 2010 at 8:18 pm.
#158
Re: why buy "Made in China" ?
In the same vein in this country we have been working with industry bodies, the Canadian government, and a number of University and College administrations, to advise on how to halt the staggering decline in enrollment for engineering and other technology degree courses in Canada.