Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
#16
Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
A few years back there was a punch up on Main St that made it onto youtube.
You may get asked for money there but whether you give or not you still get "have a nice evening" and it sounds more genuine than the have a nice/great day in the shops does.
Even Gordon St, where the houses are closer together, with a couple of bail hostels and a lone parent support/advice centre is benign.
Back in Bristol, any area with a hostel/night shelter - especially more than one - is to be avoided even in daytime.
Just a couple of streets with a handful of run-down looking properties is as bad as it gets.
Now Saint John may be a different matter. Before moving to Moncton I was looking for likely homes and a rental property to buy.
So many places in Saint John looked in poor shape. I contacted some realtors and they advised me which 'areas' to avoid.
Of course, this might have been a similar 'relative' attitude but it wasn't a simple thing like that street, this block or where two streets met, or a square or anything like that. It would be the north part of this street, west end of this one and south of that one.
You'd look on a map expecting them to converge and they'd be in three entirely different parts of the city. You'd also wonder why if that end of the street was problematic, why not the side street too, or 20 yards around the corner.
Moncton looked a whole lot better than all those ramshackle places in Saint John.
You may get asked for money there but whether you give or not you still get "have a nice evening" and it sounds more genuine than the have a nice/great day in the shops does.
Even Gordon St, where the houses are closer together, with a couple of bail hostels and a lone parent support/advice centre is benign.
Back in Bristol, any area with a hostel/night shelter - especially more than one - is to be avoided even in daytime.
Just a couple of streets with a handful of run-down looking properties is as bad as it gets.
Now Saint John may be a different matter. Before moving to Moncton I was looking for likely homes and a rental property to buy.
So many places in Saint John looked in poor shape. I contacted some realtors and they advised me which 'areas' to avoid.
Of course, this might have been a similar 'relative' attitude but it wasn't a simple thing like that street, this block or where two streets met, or a square or anything like that. It would be the north part of this street, west end of this one and south of that one.
You'd look on a map expecting them to converge and they'd be in three entirely different parts of the city. You'd also wonder why if that end of the street was problematic, why not the side street too, or 20 yards around the corner.
Moncton looked a whole lot better than all those ramshackle places in Saint John.
I did think Saint John looked a bit more tired, the rural areas looked nice though.
I'd love to live somewhere heavily forested, I once heard someone say there's nothing between Fred and Moncton but trees and that really appealed.
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Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
These might be of help
Halifax Regional Municipality - Crime Mapping
https://data.novascotia.ca/Crime-and...ndex/w64p-5ue3
https://spotcrime.com/ca/halifax
https://spotcrime.com/#Frederickton%20Canada
Mapnimbus
Crime Map | City of Fredericton
With Mapnimbus (pan out and look for symbols) and Spotcrime (not all places are covered, hold down ctrl and move map or try imputting city name), you can select different towns/cities.
Halifax Regional Municipality - Crime Mapping
https://data.novascotia.ca/Crime-and...ndex/w64p-5ue3
https://spotcrime.com/ca/halifax
https://spotcrime.com/#Frederickton%20Canada
Mapnimbus
Crime Map | City of Fredericton
With Mapnimbus (pan out and look for symbols) and Spotcrime (not all places are covered, hold down ctrl and move map or try imputting city name), you can select different towns/cities.
Last edited by Siouxie; May 12th 2017 at 6:48 pm.
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Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
I think the Coal Harbour area of Halifax might still be an area to avoid, although it has improved somewhat in the last 15 or so years ........... it was an area where there not many role models in the sense of locals making good, joining the police, becoming an NHL player, etc.
Having a local girl join the RCMP really opened some eyes as to opportunities other than standing around on the street corner and selling drugs!
Having a local girl join the RCMP really opened some eyes as to opportunities other than standing around on the street corner and selling drugs!
#19
Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
Thanks Siouxie that's absolutely brilliant, and fascinating too.
Thanks Scilly, that's really good to know.
I don't expect anywhere to be paradise redound, every has its issues but its really helpful knowing more
Thanks Scilly, that's really good to know.
I don't expect anywhere to be paradise redound, every has its issues but its really helpful knowing more
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Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
As I said, things might well have changed now ............ certainly hope they have!
But my s-i-l taught at Ross Road Junior High about 15 years ago, it's a feeder school to Coal Harbour High, but there is also an elementary school on the same campus.
When he was there, the teachers would spend Monday morning trying to work out where missing students were ....... ie, where they had been incarcerated after Friday or Saturday nights.
Mind you, the "famous" hockey player Sidney Crosby came from near that area ..... so it wasn't all bad!!
But my s-i-l taught at Ross Road Junior High about 15 years ago, it's a feeder school to Coal Harbour High, but there is also an elementary school on the same campus.
When he was there, the teachers would spend Monday morning trying to work out where missing students were ....... ie, where they had been incarcerated after Friday or Saturday nights.
Mind you, the "famous" hockey player Sidney Crosby came from near that area ..... so it wasn't all bad!!
#21
Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
I think it's a bit generic to say Cole Harbour is bad. There good bits and bad bits like anywhere...
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Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
where did I say ALL Cole Harbour was bad?
I said it might still be an area to avoid!
I said it might still be an area to avoid!
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Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
What's wrong??
Have you been there?
Do you know anything about it?
Or are you just going after me for some reason???
I actually have been to Cole Harbour, and, yes, there are some nice parts, BUT there were a lot of areas that it was best to avoid in MY experience .............. and that is what raindropsandroses is asking.
When someone tells you the way to their house, and adds "stay on the main road, don't take any short cuts or you might be in trouble", one pays attention!
The schools do not always draw students only from the "nice" area ..... so yes, it is an area to be very careful of. My story of Ross Road is true.
There are many much nicer areas in NS
FYI .............. Sid came from one of the nicer areas, we visited someone who lived 2 streets away from his family ........... typical 70s subdivision, lawns and gardens well kept, streets clean.
BUT you only had to go a few streets further away and you were out of the nice area and into one that was much less well kept.
Sid was lucky ....... he had a talent and a very firm, even over strict, father (if stories are to be believed), and that took him out of Cole Harbour.
Sid was / is loved there, as is his mother. He is also trying to pay back the community for the moral support they gave him, and to act as a role model.
I also know of areas in Halifax that it would be best to avoid ........ but like many other places, you can go 2 or 3 blocks away, and be in a very nice decent area.
#28
Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
What's wrong??
Have you been there?
Do you know anything about it?
Or are you just going after me for some reason???
I actually have been to Cole Harbour, and, yes, there are some nice parts, BUT there were a lot of areas that it was best to avoid in MY experience .............. and that is what raindropsandroses is asking.
When someone tells you the way to their house, and adds "stay on the main road, don't take any short cuts or you might be in trouble", one pays attention!
The schools do not always draw students only from the "nice" area ..... so yes, it is an area to be very careful of. My story of Ross Road is true.
There are many much nicer areas in NS
FYI .............. Sid came from one of the nicer areas, we visited someone who lived 2 streets away from his family ........... typical 70s subdivision, lawns and gardens well kept, streets clean.
BUT you only had to go a few streets further away and you were out of the nice area and into one that was much less well kept.
Sid was lucky ....... he had a talent and a very firm, even over strict, father (if stories are to be believed), and that took him out of Cole Harbour.
Sid was / is loved there, as is his mother. He is also trying to pay back the community for the moral support they gave him, and to act as a role model.
I also know of areas in Halifax that it would be best to avoid ........ but like many other places, you can go 2 or 3 blocks away, and be in a very nice decent area.
Have you been there?
Do you know anything about it?
Or are you just going after me for some reason???
I actually have been to Cole Harbour, and, yes, there are some nice parts, BUT there were a lot of areas that it was best to avoid in MY experience .............. and that is what raindropsandroses is asking.
When someone tells you the way to their house, and adds "stay on the main road, don't take any short cuts or you might be in trouble", one pays attention!
The schools do not always draw students only from the "nice" area ..... so yes, it is an area to be very careful of. My story of Ross Road is true.
There are many much nicer areas in NS
FYI .............. Sid came from one of the nicer areas, we visited someone who lived 2 streets away from his family ........... typical 70s subdivision, lawns and gardens well kept, streets clean.
BUT you only had to go a few streets further away and you were out of the nice area and into one that was much less well kept.
Sid was lucky ....... he had a talent and a very firm, even over strict, father (if stories are to be believed), and that took him out of Cole Harbour.
Sid was / is loved there, as is his mother. He is also trying to pay back the community for the moral support they gave him, and to act as a role model.
I also know of areas in Halifax that it would be best to avoid ........ but like many other places, you can go 2 or 3 blocks away, and be in a very nice decent area.
FYI I lived in NS for three years and I worked with the population you dislike. Generalizing does nobody any favors!
#29
Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
Casting Cole Harbour as a northern East Saint Louis does seem a bit harsh, but I was only there once and barely remember it, perhaps it's gone to the dogs.
#30
Re: Where to avoid in NS or NB to live?
Cole Harbour is considered a really lovely area by some (especially the Colby Village part) and clearly not by others, as per comments on here. I dont have any personal experience except that its busy. Lots of traffic on the main drag through there.