Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9428510)

If I may, I'd like to make an argument in favour of the position of MarylandNed's daughter. It seems to me that an objective in attending a university, especially in Canada, is to meet people who will be useful in one's career. This is the crux of the "networking" we see mentioned so much on this board. If the university student population is largely Asian this isn't going to work as well as it would if one attended a school with a significant cradle population. For that reason, I suggest that York and the UofT will not serve future bankers and lawyers as well as, say, McGill and Dalhousie.

Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9428509)

Oh I'm sure people can nit-pit until they are blue in the face. Primarily, noticibly, in large part Indian. All are, IMO, fair descriptions of Brampton and really, there's not much else to say about the place.

The stats prove that just over half of first year students are in a visable minority at UofT. That still leaves 45%, yet your daughter felt claustrophobic? She should move to Brampton then.

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9428516)

Actually, she loved Toronto and recognized it as a very multicultural city. The demographics at the U of T open day concerned her but that was only one factor in her turning down an offer from U of T. I must admit I was also very surprised by the demographics at the U of T open day - although it did occur to me that perhaps this was not representative of the student body as a whole. Nevertheless kids make decisions based on criteria that parents don't fully understand at times.

Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9428525)

45% of the first year intake are not a visible minority. How many "Asians" must the UofT get rid of to reverse the white flight of those who feel swamped by other cultures?

Surely this is the whole point of Toronto itself. The different neighbourhoods, all characterised by the ethnicity of those who colonised them and made them home. If everyone was forced to "integrate" and leave their customs and culture behind we would be left with a city of cinquante drinking hockey watchers. That is all well and good but no use when you decide you want Portuguese food for dinner.

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9428529)

Crosspost.

But the only one you mentioned until now.

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9428536)

You confuse "integrate" with "assimilate". By integration, I meant interaction with other cultures - sharing your own culture and enjoying others. I in no way wish people to deny/lose/hide their cultures. I believe in multiculturalism and have friends from many different cultures - as do my children. I've seen the benefits of true multicultuarlism. I lived in Toronto for 7 years and, in my opinion, it's the city where multiculturalism works best.

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9428538)

I've no idea what you just said - sorry.

Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9428525)

Surely this is the whole point of Toronto itself. The different neighbourhoods, all characterised by the ethnicity of those who colonised them and made them home.

Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9428443)

I honestly don't know how to respond to this rubbish. Students all over commute from home and go home after class. Can you be more explicit about what you are suggesting here?

The rest of this post is utter racist crap. And yes, you are a racist. Or just stupid.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9427954)

On the UofT, I have a colleague whose daughter just turned down a place there, in favour of McGill, due to the percieved uniculturalism of the UofT. That gave me pause because the family's from Macao and is ethnically Chinese.

Toronto and area though is a series of islands of uniculture, Little Indian, Greektown, Koreatown, Little Italy, Woodbridge, Brampton, Markham. I don't see that changing. Multiculturalism is, to me, many fractious communities visiting their old racisms on a new country. I think it works here due to absence of a "Canadian" culture, there's nothing to assimilate to and so nothing is lost if a place becomes the new Latvia or new wherever.

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9428542)

Look at the bolded bit in the quote from your post in mine.

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9428553)

I did but I guess you're just too clever by half because I have no idea WTF you're on about. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9428569)

Oh, never mind. I've only been paying half attention to this thread anyway because i've been watching the best German basketball player ever, Dirk Nowitski, and that rather Aryan looking Jason Kidd and their multicultural buddies, kick the butts of those darkish players from Maimi.

Originally Posted by johnh009 (Post 9428150)

Try Georgetown, very close to Brampton but populated with people of mainly British descent. It is also quite a safe area surrounded by nice countryside.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9428510)

I suggest that York and the UofT will not serve future bankers and lawyers as well as, say, McGill and Dalhousie.