what's wrong with Brampton?
Jun 13th 2011, 2:22 am
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Re: what's wrong with Brampton?
If I may, I'd like to make an argument in favour of the position of MarylandNed's daughter. It seems to me that an objective in attending a university, especially in Canada, is to meet people who will be useful in one's career. This is the crux of the "networking" we see mentioned so much on this board. If the university student population is largely Asian this isn't going to work as well as it would if one attended a school with a significant cradle population. For that reason, I suggest that York and the UofT will not serve future bankers and lawyers as well as, say, McGill and Dalhousie.
Surely this is the whole point of Toronto itself. The different neighbourhoods, all characterised by the ethnicity of those who colonised them and made them home. If everyone was forced to "integrate" and leave their customs and culture behind we would be left with a city of cinquante drinking hockey watchers. That is all well and good but no use when you decide you want Portuguese food for dinner.
Jun 13th 2011, 2:23 am
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Re: what's wrong with Brampton?
Oh I'm sure people can nit-pit until they are blue in the face. Primarily, noticibly, in large part Indian. All are, IMO, fair descriptions of Brampton and really, there's not much else to say about the place.
The stats prove that just over half of first year students are in a visable minority at UofT. That still leaves 45%, yet your daughter felt claustrophobic? She should move to Brampton then.
The stats prove that just over half of first year students are in a visable minority at UofT. That still leaves 45%, yet your daughter felt claustrophobic? She should move to Brampton then.
Jun 13th 2011, 2:23 am
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Re: what's wrong with Brampton?
Actually, she loved Toronto and recognized it as a very multicultural city. The demographics at the U of T open day concerned her but that was only one factor in her turning down an offer from U of T. I must admit I was also very surprised by the demographics at the U of T open day - although it did occur to me that perhaps this was not representative of the student body as a whole. Nevertheless kids make decisions based on criteria that parents don't fully understand at times.
But the only one you mentioned until now.
Jun 13th 2011, 2:29 am
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Re: what's wrong with Brampton?
45% of the first year intake are not a visible minority. How many "Asians" must the UofT get rid of to reverse the white flight of those who feel swamped by other cultures?
Surely this is the whole point of Toronto itself. The different neighbourhoods, all characterised by the ethnicity of those who colonised them and made them home. If everyone was forced to "integrate" and leave their customs and culture behind we would be left with a city of cinquante drinking hockey watchers. That is all well and good but no use when you decide you want Portuguese food for dinner.
Surely this is the whole point of Toronto itself. The different neighbourhoods, all characterised by the ethnicity of those who colonised them and made them home. If everyone was forced to "integrate" and leave their customs and culture behind we would be left with a city of cinquante drinking hockey watchers. That is all well and good but no use when you decide you want Portuguese food for dinner.
Jun 13th 2011, 2:31 am
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Jun 13th 2011, 2:32 am
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Re: what's wrong with Brampton?
You confuse "integrate" with "assimilate". By integration, I meant interaction with other cultures - sharing your own culture and enjoying others. I in no way wish people to deny/lose/hide their cultures. I believe in multiculturalism and have friends from many different cultures - as do my children. I've seen the benefits of true multicultuarlism. I lived in Toronto for 7 years and, in my opinion, it's the city where multiculturalism works best.
Sorry, too late. You've already demonstrated your deep seated racism.
Jun 13th 2011, 2:33 am
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Jun 13th 2011, 2:34 am
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Re: what's wrong with Brampton?
That's the best thing about Toronto. The aspiration though of students is, one hopes, to influence the future of society and that means having access to those in power. That means finding a way to talk to the children of the affluent, the connected cradle families, the people who will run the country in the future. Dithering with immigrants won't help in that regard. Where do the children of MPs go? That's what the ambitious student should ask.
Jun 13th 2011, 2:35 am
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Er - no, I am not a racist. I have friends of many races and cultures. So do my kids. However, that does not mean that I am unable to comment on immigrant or cultural issues. And I'm not stupid either. You're the person throwing the insults around. If you have something intelligent to add, then add it because I haven't seen anything yet.
Jun 13th 2011, 2:36 am
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Re: what's wrong with Brampton?
On the UofT, I have a colleague whose daughter just turned down a place there, in favour of McGill, due to the percieved uniculturalism of the UofT. That gave me pause because the family's from Macao and is ethnically Chinese.
Toronto and area though is a series of islands of uniculture, Little Indian, Greektown, Koreatown, Little Italy, Woodbridge, Brampton, Markham. I don't see that changing. Multiculturalism is, to me, many fractious communities visiting their old racisms on a new country. I think it works here due to absence of a "Canadian" culture, there's nothing to assimilate to and so nothing is lost if a place becomes the new Latvia or new wherever.
Toronto and area though is a series of islands of uniculture, Little Indian, Greektown, Koreatown, Little Italy, Woodbridge, Brampton, Markham. I don't see that changing. Multiculturalism is, to me, many fractious communities visiting their old racisms on a new country. I think it works here due to absence of a "Canadian" culture, there's nothing to assimilate to and so nothing is lost if a place becomes the new Latvia or new wherever.
Jun 13th 2011, 2:37 am
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Jun 13th 2011, 2:54 am
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Re: what's wrong with Brampton?
Oh, never mind. I've only been paying half attention to this thread anyway because i've been watching the best German basketball player ever, Dirk Nowitski, and that rather Aryan looking Jason Kidd and their multicultural buddies, kick the butts of those darkish players from Maimi.
Jun 13th 2011, 3:14 am
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Oh, never mind. I've only been paying half attention to this thread anyway because i've been watching the best German basketball player ever, Dirk Nowitski, and that rather Aryan looking Jason Kidd and their multicultural buddies, kick the butts of those darkish players from Maimi.
Jun 13th 2011, 9:25 am
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