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Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by lledlledlled
(Post 10413582)
Hi guys,
Have read some great info on here. Hopefully someone will be able to fill in a couple of gaps for me. My wife (29 years old) and I (31) are looking into emigrating to Canada from Ireland. She qualified as a Primary School Teacher last year and was lucky enough to be employed for the duration of this school year, covering maternity leave. This is regarded as her DIP (probation) year. She is also attending college at night in order to get her Honours Degree. Will she have sufficient work experience to be employed in BC? I understand that jobs are very difficult to come by at the moment. Is she at least likely to find it reasonably easy to get relief/cover/subbing work for three to four days per week? I am an electrician and it is likely that I could secure employment in Vancouver. I haven't yet fully researched the various exams I'll have to do but I understand that we should be ok travelling on my visa, as mine is regarded as an 'in-demand' skill. My wife has worked hard to achieve her dream of becoming a Primary Teacher so I'm not going to drag her to Canada if it means giving this up. We would consider other parts of Canada (or the world!) as long as it doesn't involve me flying out to mines or oil rigs. I've agreed to be home every evening! We would also prefer if it wasn't too remote an area, as we are both from a city. However, we might consider a more rural setting on a short-term basis if doing so was likely to result in better opportunities down the line. Sorry for the long post. Many thanks for any replies. As far as i know she will need a 4 year degree and will have to send all her degree course transcripts + Certificates to the governing education body in her chosen province, every province is different, my OH has her permanent eligibility certificate issued by Manitoba, so on landing she is good to go. As far as substitute teaching is concerned, Manitoba is very short of sub teachers as most are retirees who can only earn so much before they loose their pension payments + lots head south in the winter and are not available. There is no guarantee one how many days employment she would get and she would not be paid over the 2 month summer holidays. Hope this helps. Regards Andrew |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by lledlledlled
(Post 10413582)
Hi guys,
Have read some great info on here. Hopefully someone will be able to fill in a couple of gaps for me. My wife (29 years old) and I (31) are looking into emigrating to Canada from Ireland. She qualified as a Primary School Teacher last year and was lucky enough to be employed for the duration of this school year, covering maternity leave. This is regarded as her DIP (probation) year. She is also attending college at night in order to get her Honours Degree. Will she have sufficient work experience to be employed in BC? I understand that jobs are very difficult to come by at the moment. Is she at least likely to find it reasonably easy to get relief/cover/subbing work for three to four days per week? I am an electrician and it is likely that I could secure employment in Vancouver. I haven't yet fully researched the various exams I'll have to do but I understand that we should be ok travelling on my visa, as mine is regarded as an 'in-demand' skill. My wife has worked hard to achieve her dream of becoming a Primary Teacher so I'm not going to drag her to Canada if it means giving this up. We would consider other parts of Canada (or the world!) as long as it doesn't involve me flying out to mines or oil rigs. I've agreed to be home every evening! We would also prefer if it wasn't too remote an area, as we are both from a city. However, we might consider a more rural setting on a short-term basis if doing so was likely to result in better opportunities down the line. Sorry for the long post. Many thanks for any replies. One of my friends, who actually worked for a local School district as a special education assistant before becoming a teacher - so she knows lots of people in the district - is still hoping to even get on their TOC list for any supply work, let alone 3-4 days a week. She graduated over a year ago. AND she has principals and teachers wanting to help. Like the poster above said it is quite likely she would not get enough work to live on, even if she did get any work. |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by chiefmissile
(Post 10413626)
Hi,
As far as i know she will need a 4 year degree and will have to send all her degree course transcripts + Certificates to the governing education body in her chosen province, every province is different, my OH has her permanent eligibility certificate issued by Manitoba, so on landing she is good to go. As far as substitute teaching is concerned, Manitoba is very short of sub teachers as most are retirees who can only earn so much before they loose their pension payments + lots head south in the winter and are not available. There is no guarantee one how many days employment she would get and she would not be paid over the 2 month summer holidays. Hope this helps. Regards Andrew Thanks for the reply. After this year, she will have a 4 year degree, as the night classes are regarded as full-time. I suppose we'll focus on finding a province where my job has good prospects in a location that offers a good quality of life. Then we can look into the situation in that location regarding Primary School Teaching. Our hope would be that, after a year or two subbing, my wife would have the contacts & experience necessary to be a good candidate for full-time teaching jobs. Thanks again. |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10413705)
Your wife's best bet is probably to look into working for a private school. Plenty of unemployed Canadian teaching grads in Vancouver and she'd be competing with those for the public schools.
I don't think my wife would really have a preference whether she worked in private or public so she would definitely apply to both. We would certainly not be expecting that she'd get a job straight away, especially considering the number of unemployed Canadian grads. However, would it not be likely that she would get cover/relief work in the meantime? Is it a similar situation regarding teaching in other provinces? I'd also have a good chance of getting work in Saskatchewan or Alberta. Both sound mighty chilly in the wintertime though. I think we'd get used to Vancouver easier. But we'd consider the other two locations if it is likely that my wife will have an easier time finding regular work there. |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by lledlledlled
(Post 10413739)
Hi, thanks for your post.
I don't think my wife would really have a preference whether she worked in private or public so she would definitely apply to both. We would certainly not be expecting that she'd get a job straight away, especially considering the number of unemployed Canadian grads. However, would it not be likely that she would get cover/relief work in the meantime? Is it a similar situation regarding teaching in other provinces? I'd also have a good chance of getting work in Saskatchewan or Alberta. Both sound mighty chilly in the wintertime though. I think we'd get used to Vancouver easier. But we'd consider the other two locations if it is likely that my wife will have an easier time finding regular work there. I would have to say no. |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10413705)
Your wife's best bet is probably to look into working for a private school. Plenty of unemployed Canadian teaching grads in Vancouver and she'd be competing with those for the public schools. As far as supply teaching goes, i would be SHOCKED...shocked.. if she managed to get 3 -5 subbing days a week in Greater Vancouver any time soon. The Cdn teaching grads I know would give their eye -teeth to get that much work. You really should do some reading on the situation for supply teaching (it's called TOC here or teachers on call) - as grads compete with retired teachers here for it with the result the less experienced teachers often lose out.
One of my friends, who actually worked for a local School district as a special education assistant before becoming a teacher - so she knows lots of people in the district - is still hoping to even get on their TOC list for any supply work, let alone 3-4 days a week. She graduated over a year ago. AND she has principals and teachers wanting to help. Like the poster above said it is quite likely she would not get enough work to live on, even if she did get any work. Would it be any better for her if we widened the search? How about other parts of BC, Alberta, or Saskatchewan? Wherever we live, we're prepared to commute up to an hour to work (and an hour back!). Beginning to get desperate now! I do appreciate your honesty though. Far better to find out now than down the line. Cheers. |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by lledlledlled
(Post 10413789)
Wow, that sounds at least as bad as Ireland if that's possible.
Would it be any better for her if we widened the search? How about other parts of BC, Alberta, or Saskatchewan? Wherever we live, we're prepared to commute up to an hour to work (and an hour back!). Beginning to get desperate now! I do appreciate your honesty though. Far better to find out now than down the line. Cheers. |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
The least oversubscribed province as far as teachers are concerned is Manitoba, the city of Winnipeg employed 30 more teachers this year due to the provincial governments decision to make class sizes smaller.
Good Luck Andrew |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by chiefmissile
(Post 10413848)
The least oversubscribed province as far as teachers are concerned is Manitoba, the city of Winnipeg employed 30 more teachers this year due to the provincial governments decision to make class sizes smaller.
Good Luck Andrew What's the quality of life like? It looks to be one very cold spot! Is there much to see and do? |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by lledlledlled
(Post 10413902)
Sounds promising. According to a quick search, there's a good demand for electricians in Manitoba too.
What's the quality of life like? It looks to be one very cold spot! Is there much to see and do? Regards Andrew |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
check on the CIC website at the skilled workers list. It is basically a shortlist of all the areas of skills where there is a shortage. This list changes every year however. You'd have a problem trying to move over as a teacher, so if you're seeing teaching as a means to an ends (the end being emigration), then reconsider training in something else. If teaching is your passion, considering training in BC and moving over on a student visa. This is expensive but your only realistic avenue.
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Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
I am an experienced teacher from the UK, PR February 2011 and now living on the Lower Mainland BC, so here is my experience and advice from 'the horses mouth' and bang up to date:p.
First, to teach in BC in either public or private schools, you must have a Teaching Certificate from the Ministry of Education. This takes a long time and costs several hundred dollars, not even including the fees to have your transcripts sent direct to them from the UK institutions. I applied in February as soon as I was PR and they finally sent my Certificate in late August. That allows you to teach. DO NOT assume that your UK teaching qualification will be recognised here. Also, be warned that this is going to be a Conditional Certificate, which will require you to study whatever they feel you are lacking in your qualifications. For me, with a BSc Honours degree, a Postgraduate teaching qualification and over ten years of successful practice, they have required that I do 30 credits of mixed math, English literature, geography/history and teaching methodology. (I am currently gritting my teeth HARD through a 'Math for Elementary Teachers " course which is what I did at 'O' level, so that gives you some idea of the biased way they rate their own education system over the UK when they evaluate UK qualifications.:frown:) I have five years to complete and pass all that or my certificate lapses and I would have to go through the whole process from scratch again. The first 12 credits are costing me over $3000, so overall I am budgeting that it is going to be about $7000 to complete them all. Once you have your Teaching Certificate, you have to apply to the School Boards, NOT individual schools, in the public system. The private schools do hire individually but, round here at least, they are almost exclusively religious schools and by that, I mean they ask for a reference from your priest as part of your application:eek: Serious God-squaders only need apply:p All BC schools use the website makeafuture.ca to advertise their vacancies and manage the applications. This is all done online, they specifically state that they will not give feedback on any applications and so once you apply and wait and wait, if there is no word then you have no idea what you were lacking or what you could improve about your application. The adverts for general teachers, which includes Elementary (Primary), are vague and give little or no information about what they are looking for in terms of specialism or experience, so applying is a shot in the dark. Here on the lower Mainland, very few districts are recruiting and mine tells me they got 550 applications last time they advertised, so it is hugely over-subscribed. If you are a young and inexperienced teacher, you probably won't have anything to offer above the locals and even they are being forced to move to less attractive areas of the Province where work is a bit easier to find. Sorry to appear negative, but it is important to know what the situation really is like here. If anyone wants to ask me anything, please feel free to PM me. Basically, I would say that unless you have at least one good wage coming in or lots of savings, you may find the lack of work and the huge expenses, time and effort needed to be allowed to teach here are too much for you. French Immersion is popular, so if there is an area I would say is easier to get into, that would be it. You do have to be properly fluent in French, though,as the whole curriculum is taught through that language. Holiday Franglais won't cut it;). For me, I am going to keep plugging away, doing what I can and hope to be picked up sooner or later. (Not for the first time:p) |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
wow,,so you would consider a more rural setting on a short term basic if it would result in better long term prospects .... as someone that lives in a rural area thats all we need another one using the system to get in then leave to the big lights!
In sw Manitoba with the exception of colony & native schools many smaller schools are being amalgamated. and as mentioned earlier French immersion is the way to go in MB. as many schools are full french with english as 2nd language. This is not meant to be critical(well not to much) but i have heard of teachers coming to rural schools( its slightly easier to get in if you ask for a rural posting as cradles not wanting them) doing a term or two then of to the bright lights. Also Mb flat? ,yup round the peg ,hwy1 , no scenery ? :frown: try round Dauphin ,riding mountain park, La riviere in the south west, jimmy. |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
Originally Posted by jamesmc
(Post 10422257)
wow,,so you would consider a more rural setting on a short term basic if it would result in better long term prospects .... as someone that lives in a rural area thats all we need another one using the system to get in then leave to the big lights!
In sw Manitoba with the exception of colony & native schools many smaller schools are being amalgamated. and as mentioned earlier French immersion is the way to go in MB. as many schools are full french with english as 2nd language. This is not meant to be critical(well not to much) but i have heard of teachers coming to rural schools( its slightly easier to get in if you ask for a rural posting as cradles not wanting them) doing a term or two then of to the bright lights. Also Mb flat? ,yup round the peg ,hwy1 , no scenery ? :frown: try round Dauphin ,riding mountain park, La riviere in the south west, jimmy. Who are you replying to, James?:confused: |
Re: what type of teaching is required in BC?
oopps it never copied #30 & 40.:o
jimmy |
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