Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11771183)

Tail gaiters (NASCAR wanabees)

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11771243)

I quite like it here...

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11771261)

Awesome!

:rofl::rofl:

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11771163)

Lake Ontario is good for sailing, Superior better, but the former lacks a scenic coast line, both lack the taste of salt on the wind and the crashing of waves on the sand. There's commercial traffic on the great lakes but no fishing fleets and no catch of the day. The lake coast tends to be privately owned and densely populated so, even in winter, there's no sense of isolation, no wildness. It depends then on whether you want your ocean experience to have a romance to it or just to be cold and wet and a bit smelly. Lake Ontario does offer cold and wet and smelly.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11771163)

Lake Ontario is good for sailing, Superior better, but the former lacks a scenic coast line, both lack the taste of salt on the wind and the crashing of waves on the sand. There's commercial traffic on the great lakes but no fishing fleets and no catch of the day. The lake coast tends to be privately owned and densely populated so, even in winter, there's no sense of isolation, no wildness. It depends then on whether you want your ocean experience to have a romance to it or just to be cold and wet and a bit smelly. Lake Ontario does offer cold and wet and smelly.

Originally Posted by I am I said (Post 11771389)

I agree with the above for Ontario and Erie. The north shore of Superior is a different, er, kettle of fish? But not much there for a family or work.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11771019)

Valletta, of course, which has 2957 hours per year.

Originally Posted by Simon Legree (Post 11771031)

Or where I am headed tomorrow until April, Yuma, AZ, the sunniest place of all. Don't know how many hours but about 360 days a year ! :thumbup:

Originally Posted by Pizzawheel (Post 11771667)

Where is this smell? Is it that I live so close to the lake that I've grown used to it? Also, salt water up the nose. Freshwater is GREAT.

Originally Posted by Gozit (Post 11771225)

Yeah you're right there, London (ON) has 286 sunlight days / year on average, Malta has 300.

Maybe its just nostalgia/the "high" you get from being on vacation or whatever, but I always find the sun more intense and present there vs here, always chalked it up to distance from the equator. (Canada very far away, Malta fairly close) (ie, I can walk around without sunglasses if I have to in ON, while in MLT I am shielding my eyes :lol:)

Personally here I find a good number of the days are gray and gloomy than not, but I would find that in the Maltese winter, too. But then you're talking about it being 15c there and -15 here, which helps. ;)

The "a bit smelly" kills it for me every single time. I can't stand that awful smell.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11771588)

Self. North Shore. 2005. We camped on the beach. The shoreline is less crowded than that of Erie or Ontario. It's attractive in a Group of Seven kind of way; rocks, evergreen trees, nice sunrises and sunsets. It's cold and there's a lot of snow. Retired people are stacked in disused mines and gravel pits at Kirkland Lake, their presence with their Buicks and Caddy's combined with the many abandoned farms, give the area an end-of-the-world feeling.I'd say it's Chernobylesque.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11771675)

If you sail on Lake Ontario or Lake Erie in fog you know when you are getting too close to shore because of the sound of the dead fish slapping on the hull. It's a personal thing, of course, but I find rotting fish pong a bit. The sewage outlet aslo has an odour I find unattractive though, I suppose, to a gong farmer it's the smell of money. I'm glad it's all spring flowers to your nose.