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Pizzawheel Oct 27th 2015 3:04 pm

Re: What do you dislike about living in Ontario?
 
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BristolUK Oct 27th 2015 4:03 pm

Re: What do you dislike about living in Ontario?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11780448)
I understand that Moncton has lots of snow and Toronto does not but I think you want to be a bit careful with this idea. The Toronto that has balmy weather is Toronto proper

LondonOnt, Hamilton, places west, get lake effect snow. They're not Buffalo but they are places where one would wait for the plough before driving and a subscription to a truck and blade service would be worth thinking about.

If I wanted to save my aching back, I wouldn't look to move west of Toronto.

I'm not sure what "lake effect" snow is, but looking at nothing more than annual snowfall everywhere Kingston to London (and around to Hanilton) gets between half and two thirds what we get.

That's a massive difference.

Toronto would likely be out of the question for us but lots of other places would be affordable.

Moncton gets 282cm.
Hamilton 118
Kingston 157
Kitchener 159
London 194
St Catharines and Peterborough both on 137

What am I not considering?

MarylandNed Oct 27th 2015 5:02 pm

Re: What do you dislike about living in Ontario?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11780508)
I'm not sure what "lake effect" snow is, but looking at nothing more than annual snowfall everywhere Kingston to London (and around to Hanilton) gets between half and two thirds what we get.

That's a massive difference.

Toronto would likely be out of the question for us but lots of other places would be affordable.

Moncton gets 282cm.
Hamilton 118
Kingston 157
Kitchener 159
London 194
St Catharines and Peterborough both on 137

What am I not considering?


Lake-effect snow is produced during cooler atmospheric conditions when a cold air mass moves across long expanses of warmer lake water, warming the lower layer of air which picks up water vapour from the lake, rises up through the colder air above, freezes and is deposited on the leeward (downwind) shores.

London, ON gets more rain and more snow because of moisture picked up from Lake Huron which is then dumped on London.

BristolUK Oct 27th 2015 5:11 pm

Re: What do you dislike about living in Ontario?
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 11780558)
Lake-effect snow is produced during cooler atmospheric conditions when a cold air mass moves across long expanses of warmer lake water, warming the lower layer of air which picks up water vapour from the lake, rises up through the colder air above, freezes and is deposited on the leeward (downwind) shores.

London, ON gets more rain and more snow because of moisture picked up from Lake Huron which is then dumped on London.

Thanks. However Moncton gets more annual rainfall than London and 282cm snow as against 194.

MarylandNed Oct 27th 2015 5:15 pm

Re: What do you dislike about living in Ontario?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11780563)
Thanks. However Moncton gets more annual rainfall than London and 282cm snow as against 194.

Yes, because of moisture picked up from the Atlantic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Moncton#Winter

"Major snowfalls can result from nor'easter ocean storms moving up the east coast of North America, following the jet stream from the southeastern United States. Large amounts of precipitation can result from the counterclockwise rotation of these storms picking up moisture from the Atlantic Ocean and dumping it on southeastern New Brunswick as the storms pass by to the south and east of the region. This can be amplified locally by "sea effect" snow squall activity due to northeasterly winds passing over the nearby Gulf of St. Lawrence on the trailing edge of the storm."

Novocastrian Oct 27th 2015 5:17 pm

Re: What do you dislike about living in Ontario?
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 11780558)
Lake-effect snow is produced during cooler atmospheric conditions when a cold air mass moves across long expanses of warmer lake water, warming the lower layer of air which picks up water vapour from the lake, rises up through the colder air above, freezes and is deposited on the leeward (downwind) shores.

London, ON gets more rain and more snow because of moisture picked up from Lake Huron which is then dumped on London.

Your description of Lake Effect Snow is 100% accurate. However with specific reference to London ON there is another unfortunate consequence of its location with respect to the Great Lakes.

I think most people are familiar with Sea Breezes, which arise because of differing thermal capacities in the ocean and the land so that the temperature difference between the sea surface and the coastal land surface oscillates in sign during the nights compared to the days.

The Great Lakes are large enough to give rise to Lake Breezes for the same reasons.

Now, London happens to be located where the on-shore lake breezes from Lake Erie to the south and Lake Huron to the northwest converge in the late afternoons in summer. This lake breeze convergence forces the warm moist air to rise rapidly, in turn initiating deep convection and the formation of cumulonimbus (thunder) clouds.

So London and surrounds get dumped on by snow in the winter and saturated by thunder storms in summer.

HTH.

dbd33 Oct 27th 2015 5:28 pm

Re: What do you dislike about living in Ontario?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11780508)

What am I not considering?

The distribution of fall. In technical terms, the degree of whomp. 100" spread over the winter is a different problem to 24" in one day and the areas in question get lots of inches all at once.

BristolUK Oct 27th 2015 7:11 pm

Re: What do you dislike about living in Ontario?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11780586)
The distribution of fall. In technical terms, the degree of whomp. 100" spread over the winter is a different problem to 24" in one day and the areas in question get lots of inches all at once.

Still not seeing the downside I'm afraid. In inches London is getting 76. So if they get 24 once that leaves little the rest of the winter.

Currentresults.com for London
Most days of snowfall in London leave less than five centimetres (2 inches), of fresh snow on the ground. For 13 days a year on average, the amount of new snow totals at least five cm.

Big snowstorms of over ten cm a day normally occur about four times a year. But major blizzards that dump 25 cm or more in one day are rare events that happen only once a decade.


Currentresults.com for Moncton
Most days of snowfall in Moncton leave less than five centimetres (2 inches) of fresh snow on the ground. For 19 days a year on average, the amount of new snow totals at least five cm.

Big snowstorms of over ten cm a day normally occur nine or ten times a year. Major blizzards that dump 25 cm or more in one day happen just once or twice a year.


13 times a year, 4 times a year and once in a decade as opposed to 19, 9/10 and once or twice a year

Even if I was looking to move to London you're not succeeding in putting me off. :rofl:

dbd33 Oct 27th 2015 7:28 pm

Re: What do you dislike about living in Ontario?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11780667)
Even if I was looking to move to London you're not succeeding in putting me off. :rofl:

OK then, it's your back.


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