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Old Feb 10th 2006, 10:15 am
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Default Re: what age is the right age to move to Canada? or is there such a thing?

Originally Posted by Morwenna
I think it's more to do with frame of mind and outlook rather than age.

Younger people may feel they are more adventurous, and globally mobile, with few ties and plentious funds, but maybe the more mature of us, , moving here with families will make more of an effort to make it work out.

At a certain age .... call it mid-life crisis if you will ..... many evaluate exactly what they have achieved in life, and what the next 25 years plus may hold. If the horizon looks as bleak as ours did it's not a huge leap of imagination, even if does take more effort than a "youngster", to see oneself trying again in a new direction, new country or whatever, to change that outlook. I think it maybe takes more courage and determination though.

Perhaps the "oldies" of us, who have not only ourselves, but our kids, (and in many cases the impact on even more elderly parents to consider), may actually be more committed to that change, once decided, and to MAKE it work, even if things are not as we totally expect when we get here. We have too much invested in this to walk away from it if the going gets tough!! Young people can have a much more "suck it and see" attititude.

Note I am not saying they DO, and will not say 30's, 40's, 50's or whatever is better than 20's. It's down to the individual in the end and how much they want it to succeed and are able to adapt to change. The ones that fail are the ones who can't adapt (whatever that takes) and move on with their lives, and that can be at any age!
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Default Re: what age is the right age to move to Canada? or is there such a thing?

Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
I don't know a Canadian who has made a permanent move to the United States in old age. But I do know several Snow Birds who go south for the winters and return to Canada for the summers. All the ones I've known who no longer are doing it came back to Canada to die. Actually, come to think of it, that's quite a relevant criterion by which to judge a country.
They don't move completely because of the healthcare system in Canada (and, perhaps, for family reasons). I'm not sure what it says about a country when it's elder citizens go there for healthcare and death.
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Originally Posted by dbd
Older Canadians move away, to Florida, to Arizona, to anywhere warm so one would have to think it perverse to move Canada at a great age. Anyone over, say, thirty, might want to look at somewhere with a more hospitable climate.
"Sweeping generalization" alert.

The more mature members of my wife's family go down to Florida to escape the Ontario winter, but they haven't moved there.

And ... I'm 43 (my Ontario born Mrs a little older) we both prefer the climate here to that of the UK (and her Ontario - I can't comment as I haven't lived there). It's never that cold for very long, there is plenty of sunshine and the air is clean and dry.

If I speak to people back in the UK (especially in the north) they are always moaning about not having seen the sun for days on end.
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Originally Posted by CalgaryBlade
(especially in the north)
It's true that I've never been to, nor spoken to, anyone in "the north". If one were there one might look at Canada differently.
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Originally Posted by dbd33
I'm not sure what it says about a country when it's elder citizens go there for healthcare and death.
That the country has decent healthcare and cheap funerals?

Just a guess.
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Originally Posted by snowqueen
Me too..! though you didn't say WHICH age bracket! I happen to have married a younger man... my toyboy husband is all of 13 months younger than me, so I safely took our median age..left on my own, I'd be fast approaching Jenwren!!
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Originally Posted by snowqueen
I really think the time is right for different people at different times of their lives. As I said, when we maybe had the chance to think of Canada in the early 90's we didn't want to......?! You change as you get older (pass my zimmer frame!) and your perspective on life alters. But there is no point in wondering what if we'd done this or that, because you didn't and you are here, now, so get on with it and look FORWARD!!

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Well said

Have you sent those passports off yet?!?

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Originally Posted by Morwenna
Sorry (young man) but ............... TOSH!
If that remark was not made with tongue firmly in cheek I suggest you wash your mouth out with soap. Immediately!!

I think it's more to do with frame of mind and outlook rather than age.

Younger people may feel they are more adventurous, and globally mobile, with few ties and plentious funds, but maybe the more mature of us, , moving here with families will make more of an effort to make it work out.

At a certain age .... call it mid-life crisis if you will ..... many evaluate exactly what they have achieved in life, and what the next 25 years plus may hold. If the horizon looks as bleak as ours did it's not a huge leap of imagination, even if does take more effort than a "youngster", to see oneself trying again in a new direction, new country or whatever, to change that outlook. I think it maybe takes more courage and determination though.

Perhaps the "oldies" of us, who have not only ourselves, but our kids, (and in many cases the impact on even more elderly parents to consider), may actually be more committed to that change, once decided, and to MAKE it work, even if things are not as we totally expect when we get here. We have too much invested in this to walk away from it if the going gets tough!! Young people can have a much more "suck it and see" attititude.

Note I am not saying they DO, and will not say 30's, 40's, 50's or whatever is better than 20's. It's down to the individual in the end and how much they want it to succeed and are able to adapt to change. The ones that fail are the ones who can't adapt (whatever that takes) and move on with their lives, and that can be at any age!

Hear hear!! Well said!!

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Default Re: what age is the right age to move to Canada? or is there such a thing?

Originally Posted by Jenwren
Have you sent those passports off yet?!?

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Got the photos done yesterday morning and the (freshly renewed!) passports will be in the post first thing tomorrow morning .

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Default Re: what age is the right age to move to Canada? or is there such a thing?

Originally Posted by babyblue
An interesting theory!

Some say it is good to move here young, while others say older and wiser. So i thought what about a little poll to see what the average age is of people settling here and who actually lasts.
Does age really contribute to the settlement process?

Or is it all in the mind?

I am sure i am not alone when i say that i have spoken to many people in canada about their life here so far. Many have been here for many years whilst others only a short time. everyone has a different story to tell. what is yours?
Do we (as adults) feel more pressure to settle or do we feel more secure?

If you are younger are you more likely to be flippant about life and therefor more relaxed?

For me, I feel as a mother, a tremendous pressure to make it work. Is this a healthy force?

would i have gone back if i did not have this responsibility? possibly!

whats your view?

i had added a discrete poll so nobody's age is public.

The way things are going at CHC London, in particular the speed Med Reqs are not appearing, I think you should rename the Poll to:

What age do you think you will be, when you move to Canada? or will you be over 55 and lose too many points...
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Originally Posted by snowqueen
Me too..! though you didn't say WHICH age bracket! I happen to have married a younger man... my toyboy husband is all of 13 months younger than me, so I safely took our median age..left on my own, I'd be fast approaching Jenwren!!

Seriously though, I've sometimes wondered about the 'what if we'd done this earlier' question. We both used to live in South Africa, so were used to being away. We also travelled the world in 1990 soon after we were married. We thought about going to live in Oz/NZ but decided they were too far away. Had been to Canada and loved it, but never thought of living there. Ended up coming to Ireland by default, and it is only now, as more 'mature' adults, that we can see what Canada has to offer, especially for kids. Having done all we've done, we are far more confident of our decision, and perhaps less daunted by it, though having kids does put a whole new slant on that We also have a ton of equity in our house, which helps

I really think the time is right for different people at different times of their lives. As I said, when we maybe had the chance to think of Canada in the early 90's we didn't want to......?! You change as you get older (pass my zimmer frame!) and your perspective on life alters. But there is no point in wondering what if we'd done this or that, because you didn't and you are here, now, so get on with it and look FORWARD!!


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Well I am just inside the pink bracket and my husband is younger too so that sum seems fair enough! We also have 3 girls and the youngest is 5 so in a lot of ways it is for their future and opportunities as much as ours.
As for snowbirds,well maybe but a lot have been put off by the weather in southern US as it seems to be more windy than in recent years. Perhaps they'll all turn up on Vancouver Island where we are going!
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Originally Posted by babyblue
Some say it is good to move here young, while others say older and wiser.
If you mean skilled migration, you're really looking at the 25-50 age window. It's not that easy to meet the requirements to migrate outside of this.

Every case is different however a general view (based on this forum and others) could be summarised as:

25-29: It's fairly easy to migrate at this age and integrate into the Canadian labour market. It's still early enough to recover from any career setback due to not having Canadian qualifications and experience at the outset. It's nevertheless important to arrive in Canada with some funds available.

30-34: The knock-back on the career ladder that normally comes with migration becomes more noticeable. Often migrants in this age group bring a spouse, that can cause issues if the spouse doesn't settle. Any children are usually quite young so few adaptability issues here.

35-39: The impact of not having Canadian qualifications and Canadian work experience can be quite significant for many in this age group (unless transferred by an employer). Especially professional/white collar/managerial occupations.

40-44: Ageism in the employment market place can start to impact migrants in this age group, unless they are prepared to downshift. Parents at an advanced age in home country, and children reaching teenage years can impact settlement prospects.

45-50: For many people the 'last chance' to migrate. Integrating into the Canadian labour market at the same level is likely to be extremely difficult, however those who plan it on the basis of a downshift in life or a second career and are still willing to retrain and learn something new have the best prospects. As with age groups slightly younger, those in this category should seriously consider the prospects both for elderly parents and teenage children.

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Originally Posted by JAJ
If you mean skilled migration, you're really looking at the 25-50 age window. It's not that easy to meet the requirements to migrate outside of this:

25-29: It's fairly easy to migrate at this age and integrate into the Canadian labour market. It's still early enough to recover from any career setback due to not having Canadian qualifications and experience at the outset. It's nevertheless important to arrive in Canada with some funds available.

30-34: The knock-back on the career ladder that normally comes with migration becomes more noticeable. Often migrants in this age group bring a spouse, that can cause issues if the spouse doesn't settle. Any children are usually quite young so few adaptability issues here.

35-39: The impact of not having Canadian qualifications and Canadian work experience can be quite significant for many in this age group (unless transferred by an employer). Especially professional/white collar/managerial occupations.

40-44: Ageism in the employment market place can start to impact migrants in this age group, unless they are prepared to downshift. Parents at an advanced age in home country, and children reaching teenage years can impact settlement prospects.

45-50: For many people the 'last chance' to migrate. Integrating into the Canadian labour market at the same level is likely to be extremely difficult, however those who plan it on the basis of a downshift in life or a second career and are still willing to retrain and learn something new have the best prospects. As with age groups slightly younger, those in this category should seriously consider the prospects both for elderly parents and teenage children.
If you're in Australia, how come you are so up on Canada? Just curious.
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I have the same story as you! I came here at 21 for what I thought would be a year - but ended up getting PR through the family class route (common law) and I've been here ever since.

I think the 20's are a good age to move as generally there is very little to tie us down, like kids, a mortgage etc. Also at this age you're more open to new experiences and able to adapt better.

It's also easier to get a "career job" in your early twenties as you'll most likely be looking for entry level/junior positions that don't require as much "Canadian experience". The more senior the position, the harder it will be to get with only British education and experience.

I couldn't imagine being in my 30s'/40's and dragging my family half way across the world - too much stress for me - I admire those who do it successfully!


Originally Posted by britishvixen21
I came here at the tender age of 21 and jsut came travelling thats an awesome time to get established and what now, but for emigrating (which i initially never intended to do) maybe older wiser, bit more money in the bank more head on your shoulders and not in your pants hehehee.
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I put 19-25, even though when I move I will be 26. I'll be moving just me and my Canadian spouse. If I had any more than that, I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable doing it. I would have liked to do it sooner, but needed more work experience, or a Canadian sponsor. I think time spent not coming is just wasted time, but that is just how I feel, and everyone's situation is different.
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From what i have been reading, age does have an impact on the move. The general consensus is that 20-30 is the best age in order to be able to adapt.
No comitments, able to adapt or re qualify. Not so bogged down with the trivia in life.
It is harder with a family and it is certainly harder for the 36-45 age group. Unless you have a job established before you arrive and money in the bank.
If we all started on equal terms, with no money and no family would they age thing be different?
I ask myself this question becuase i am 38 and have children. I sometimes think that if i did not have the children would i still be here?
Or would i be like the littlest hobo?
I know that the sense of responsibility does have a trenendeous impact on lifes decissions. For me, My kids will always come first.
Therfor i rest here in Canada trying to get by. With the hope that as a 38 year old women, i will not be on the scrapheap.

good luck to all and may age never be a problem.
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