War of 1812
Jun 6th 2011, 6:03 pm
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War of 1812
Found this gem: http://www.uscis.gov/uscis-ext-templ.../M-638_red.pdf
Have a read of page 18-19 on the War of 1812. “The Americans won the war.” Oh really. Plus it directly contradicts the Canadian citizenship guide, which I found rather amusing.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/discover.pdf
On page 17: “By 1814, the American attempt to conquer Canada had failed.”
Have a read of page 18-19 on the War of 1812. “The Americans won the war.” Oh really. Plus it directly contradicts the Canadian citizenship guide, which I found rather amusing.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/discover.pdf
On page 17: “By 1814, the American attempt to conquer Canada had failed.”
Jun 6th 2011, 8:55 pm
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Re: War of 1812
Found this gem: http://www.uscis.gov/uscis-ext-templ.../M-638_red.pdf
Have a read of page 18-19 on the War of 1812. “The Americans won the war.” Oh really. Plus it directly contradicts the Canadian citizenship guide, which I found rather amusing.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/discover.pdf
On page 17: “By 1814, the American attempt to conquer Canada had failed.”
Have a read of page 18-19 on the War of 1812. “The Americans won the war.” Oh really. Plus it directly contradicts the Canadian citizenship guide, which I found rather amusing.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/discover.pdf
On page 17: “By 1814, the American attempt to conquer Canada had failed.”
Jun 6th 2011, 9:04 pm
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Jun 6th 2011, 9:11 pm
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God bless wikipedea, they are both right!
"During the 19th century the popular image of the war in the United States was of an American victory, and in Canada, of a Canadian victory. Each young country saw her self-perceived victory as an important foundation of her growing nationhood. The British, on the other hand, who had been preoccupied by Napoleon's challenge in Europe, paid little attention to what was to them a peripheral and secondary dispute."
Im with the british on this one, dont really care, but they built some pretty cool forts here due to the conflict...
"During the 19th century the popular image of the war in the United States was of an American victory, and in Canada, of a Canadian victory. Each young country saw her self-perceived victory as an important foundation of her growing nationhood. The British, on the other hand, who had been preoccupied by Napoleon's challenge in Europe, paid little attention to what was to them a peripheral and secondary dispute."
Im with the british on this one, dont really care, but they built some pretty cool forts here due to the conflict...
Jun 6th 2011, 10:06 pm
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who cares??...not a single world cup between them and thats all that really matters!!
Jun 6th 2011, 11:11 pm
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Did you know that the war extended over to the UK with sea and land battles being fought at Whitehaven, st Davids, Fishguard, and Flamborough head? The battle at st Davids was quite interesting how it ended, a small group of American militia attempted the invasion of Britain and seized part of the town. But they surrendered and yeilded their arms, because they thought they were outnumbered. And they walked towards a group of Welsh women walking towards them at a distance on their way to church. That in turn they mistook for the Yeoman Guard due to their tall black hats and red tunics.
The other battle at Whitehaven resulted in a foiled attempt to burn the Royal naval fleet that were docked their at the time. The plan was to set fire to the ships, but due to heavy rain and being overcome by the naval guard, the plan was foiled. As for Flamborough Head, there is just a small plaque set in the ground commerating that shots were fired from an American war ship in an attempt to try and destroy the light house and cause damage to merchant and the Kings Naval ships. I'm still trying to find out more about the outcome. The US Navy and Royal Navy still meet at Whitehaven once a year to commerate the battle of 1812, but two different stories are told accounting what actually happened.
The other battle at Whitehaven resulted in a foiled attempt to burn the Royal naval fleet that were docked their at the time. The plan was to set fire to the ships, but due to heavy rain and being overcome by the naval guard, the plan was foiled. As for Flamborough Head, there is just a small plaque set in the ground commerating that shots were fired from an American war ship in an attempt to try and destroy the light house and cause damage to merchant and the Kings Naval ships. I'm still trying to find out more about the outcome. The US Navy and Royal Navy still meet at Whitehaven once a year to commerate the battle of 1812, but two different stories are told accounting what actually happened.
Jun 7th 2011, 12:33 am
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Re: War of 1812
Did you know that the war extended over to the UK with sea and land battles being fought at Whitehaven, st Davids, Fishguard, and Flamborough head? The battle at st Davids was quite interesting how it ended, a small group of American militia attempted the invasion of Britain and seized part of the town. But they surrendered and yeilded their arms, because they thought they were outnumbered. And they walked towards a group of Welsh women walking towards them at a distance on their way to church. That in turn they mistook for the Yeoman Guard due to their tall black hats and red tunics.
The other battle at Whitehaven resulted in a foiled attempt to burn the Royal naval fleet that were docked their at the time. The plan was to set fire to the ships, but due to heavy rain and being overcome by the naval guard, the plan was foiled. As for Flamborough Head, there is just a small plaque set in the ground commerating that shots were fired from an American war ship in an attempt to try and destroy the light house and cause damage to merchant and the Kings Naval ships. I'm still trying to find out more about the outcome. The US Navy and Royal Navy still meet at Whitehaven once a year to commerate the battle of 1812, but two different stories are told accounting what actually happened.
The other battle at Whitehaven resulted in a foiled attempt to burn the Royal naval fleet that were docked their at the time. The plan was to set fire to the ships, but due to heavy rain and being overcome by the naval guard, the plan was foiled. As for Flamborough Head, there is just a small plaque set in the ground commerating that shots were fired from an American war ship in an attempt to try and destroy the light house and cause damage to merchant and the Kings Naval ships. I'm still trying to find out more about the outcome. The US Navy and Royal Navy still meet at Whitehaven once a year to commerate the battle of 1812, but two different stories are told accounting what actually happened.
Jun 7th 2011, 12:38 am
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Re: War of 1812
God bless wikipedea, they are both right!
"During the 19th century the popular image of the war in the United States was of an American victory, and in Canada, of a Canadian victory. Each young country saw her self-perceived victory as an important foundation of her growing nationhood. The British, on the other hand, who had been preoccupied by Napoleon's challenge in Europe, paid little attention to what was to them a peripheral and secondary dispute."
Im with the british on this one, dont really care, but they built some pretty cool forts here due to the conflict...
"During the 19th century the popular image of the war in the United States was of an American victory, and in Canada, of a Canadian victory. Each young country saw her self-perceived victory as an important foundation of her growing nationhood. The British, on the other hand, who had been preoccupied by Napoleon's challenge in Europe, paid little attention to what was to them a peripheral and secondary dispute."
Im with the british on this one, dont really care, but they built some pretty cool forts here due to the conflict...
Looking forward to the beer festival at Fort York that is supposed to take place each summer!
Jun 7th 2011, 4:54 pm
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Jun 7th 2011, 5:10 pm
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But hardly anybody watches them , they are watching the US networks instead.
The only reason there is canadian content on the radio is because its mandated, and I cant remember the last Canadian produced movie that registered at the box office.
The only reason there is canadian content on the radio is because its mandated, and I cant remember the last Canadian produced movie that registered at the box office.
Jun 7th 2011, 5:15 pm
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I think you misunderstood, a lot of American shows on American networks are made in Canada, usually Vancouver. E.g. Fringe, which is a Fox show, airs on Space here but everyone watches it on Fox because Space doesn't have HD.
Jun 7th 2011, 5:31 pm
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I get it now. Still US shows with largely US casts, produced with US money. Its the money thats important.
Jun 7th 2011, 5:36 pm
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Actually I think most of them have Canadian casts, there's usually one or two big American actors that front them and the rest of them are Canadian, or not American at least.
Jun 7th 2011, 5:40 pm
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Its US money calling the shots.
The fact that they can use Canadian cities and locations to substitute for US one kind of proves the point that Canada is at the very least, extremely similar to the US.
The fact that they can use Canadian cities and locations to substitute for US one kind of proves the point that Canada is at the very least, extremely similar to the US.
