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Tangram Aug 19th 2007 11:29 am

Re: wanting to move to canada
 

Originally Posted by rlogan (Post 5210012)
Just looking in as my sister is making the move soon - sorry!:ohmy:

Best of luck to her :thumbup:

moondevil Aug 19th 2007 12:47 pm

Re: wanting to move to canada
 

Originally Posted by bird family (Post 5208273)
we are a family of 4 plus one daughthers fiancee.
my husband is 49 and a crane driver, son 20 a banksman coordinator for the crane company also a qualified plumber, daughter 18 administration assistant
and her fiancee a scaffolder he is 22. I am 43 and a shop assistant.
we are making enquiries on areas to live in and also where the best weather is . toronto looks nice but would like to know what there weather is like all year round .also if there a plenty of job opportunties there for our families skills. is it also better to rent for the first year or go ahead and buy straight away. is toronto a nice area to live in or can you recommend somewhere thats near there that may be worth a consideration. i look forward to any help. linda

Have you looked on the cnc site for the age cut off :confused:
Toronto is nice, but would not live there, depends what you are looking for ??
you advise that you are leaving the uk for the weather, we was here in january it was -30 and snow to your knees, we are back again at the moment and its been +30, like the others have said if you want it warm do look at the other countrys as canada is not hot all year round.
Also the kids will need there own way in, we are here banging on doors for jobs, very hard going with kids as well, but if you really want to get over into ontario, you need that job
Good luck on your search!!!!!:thumbsup:

gill

ImLivingTheDream Aug 20th 2007 12:25 am

Re: wanting to move to canada
 
Don't want snow or mountains, but want to move to Canada? :rofl: Got to be a wind up.
I think you should move to Spain.

sasha 1 Aug 20th 2007 2:46 am

Re: wanting to move to canada
 

Originally Posted by Howard1944 (Post 5209723)
Don't want snow or mountains, well go to BC, then catch a connecting Quantas flight to Australia, but you had better like venoumus spiders, poisonous snakes, hordes of flys, and the occasional crocodile in your swimming pool.

Thanks for your suggestion but no thanks. I am just trying to please everyone in our family and needed advice from someone who has experienced life already in Canada as you can appreciate its a big move and one has to be certain. linda

sasha 1 Aug 20th 2007 2:53 am

Re: wanting to move to canada
 

Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary (Post 5209829)
No, I don't think so. As a scaffolder, I don't know how he would qualify to get into Canada. Oh yes, since he's under 35, I suppose he could get into Canada on a one-year working holiday visa through BUNAC. But that won't solve the longer term challenge of how he can qualify to get into Canada permanently.

Your daughter can accompany your husband as one of his dependents only if she is single. If she is married or has a common-law partner, she is not single. If your husband lists her as one of his dependents on his work permit application or his application for permanent residence, it would be fraudulent and would be grounds for having his visa revoked.

There is no place in Canada that fits that description. As Howard said, Australia fits the description. I've lived in Australia, and I liked it.

Hi thanks judy for your information . Dont really want to go to Australia . Wonder if you can answer this . My daughter is still really a dependent I mean she lives at home with us still and her boyfriend lives at his own house but he wants to leave the country. If possible can we still come as a family. shes not married or in a common-law partner relationship they been together for over a year but they do not live together. Would he have that much difficulty coming over on his own and getting a job and then maybe live with us what you think. thanks so much for info. linda

Beebop Aug 20th 2007 3:08 am

Re: wanting to move to canada
 

Originally Posted by bird family (Post 5212053)
Hi thanks judy for your information . Dont really want to go to Australia . Wonder if you can answer this . My daughter is still really a dependent I mean she lives at home with us still and her boyfriend lives at his own house but he wants to leave the country. If possible can we still come as a family. shes not married or in a common-law partner relationship they been together for over a year but they do not live together. Would he have that much difficulty coming over on his own and getting a job and then maybe live with us what you think. thanks so much for info. linda

I think you really need to have each prospective applicant do the self-assessment test on the CIC website and then you will have your answers.

So you or your husband for your family and the boyfriend for his own visa (and possibly your daughter).

BTW, it is impossible to please everyone....never happens and if you don't like cold, then you really should be thinking more of Spain, Oz or North Island NZ.

Paul Wildy Aug 20th 2007 3:20 am

Re: wanting to move to canada
 

Originally Posted by bird family (Post 5212053)
Hi thanks judy for your information . Dont really want to go to Australia . Wonder if you can answer this . My daughter is still really a dependent I mean she lives at home with us still and her boyfriend lives at his own house but he wants to leave the country. If possible can we still come as a family. shes not married or in a common-law partner relationship they been together for over a year but they do not live together. Would he have that much difficulty coming over on his own and getting a job and then maybe live with us what you think. thanks so much for info. linda

re: the weather thing - I wouldn't get too hung up on it personally. The key to happiness and making a move abroad work out well is not just weather. Depends what you want too - for some people nice weather means hot and sunny all the time. Nowhere in Canada like that - in most areas for every degree above zero you get in the summer you get equivalent below zero in the winter. Vancouver has mild winters but really wet. Most inland areas very harsh winters. Atlantic provinces not as cold in the winter but terrible spring.

For me the winter is one of the nicest times of the year - so much sunshine (seriously, really really bright sunshine most of the time) and almost no rain for months. Of course it gets cold but as long as you wear appropriate clothes its no problem and you get to spend lots of time outside having fun

iaink Aug 20th 2007 3:37 am

Re: wanting to move to canada
 

Originally Posted by steve666 (Post 5209739)
Where does the other half of Ontario live??

Florida, for 5.9 months of the year.

Judy in Calgary Aug 20th 2007 3:44 am

Re: wanting to move to canada
 

Originally Posted by bird family
My daughter is still really a dependent I mean she lives at home with us still and her boyfriend lives at his own house but he wants to leave the country. If possible can we still come as a family. shes not married or in a common-law partner relationship they been together for over a year but they do not live together.

In that case your husband could list your daughter as a dependent who will be accompanying him to Canada when he completes his application form.


Would he have that much difficulty coming over on his own and getting a job and then maybe live with us
I don't know enough to answer this question. I'm not a tradesperson myself, and none of my family members are tradespeople either, so I don't know a great deal about the skilled trades.

In order to help you out yesterday, I looked up the list of Occupations Under Pressure in British Columbia. I found a crane operator on that list, but not a scaffolder.

Today I have done a couple more Google searches, and I have not been able to find out much about scaffolders in Canada. From what I can tell, erecting and dismantling scaffolds seems to be included in the duties of carpenters.

Although trades are regulated by each province in Canada, there is a national testing organisation whose test results are recognised across the country. The organisation is the Interprovincial Standards Red Seal Program. As you can see from the Red Seal list of trades, scaffolders are not listed as a trade.

I notice that carpenters are included in the list of Occupations Under Pressure in BC.

Oh yes, here is apparent confirmation that scaffolders fall under the umbrella of carpenters here in Canada. Here is the website of Canada Scaffold Supply Co. Ltd., which came up when I did a Google search for SCAFFOLD + BRITISH COLUMBIA. The company's blurb states:
At Canada Scaffold Supply Co. Ltd, our goal is to give our customers the best service and a safe quality product. All our qualified scaffold erectors, are long term employees. Some with as many as 20 years experience. All personnel are trained erectors and are member of the Brotherhood of Carpenters Union local 1995.
I don't know if your daughter's fiance would qualify as a carpenter in BC. What I mean is that, while a scaffolder's duties are included in a carpenter's duties, a carpenter's duties are not confined to scaffolding. They include many other tasks as well.

But, with that having been said, the requirements for working as a carpenter are not as rigorous as those for working as an electrician or plumber. At least that is the case in my province of Alberta, and I'm guessing it's true of BC as well. Electricians and plumbers have to pass an exam and do an apprenticeship. UK electricians and plumbers have to have something like six years of experience as a skilled tradesperson and they have to write an exam in order to be accredited in Alberta (and I think in other provinces too). In the case of carpenters, however, the exam, official apprenticeship, etc., are optional. An employer is allowed to employ someone as a carpenter if the employer can satisfy themselves that the employee has mastered the skills of carpentry.

I don't know enough about this topic from personal experience to give you definitive information. I also don't have enough time to search the Internet for more information.

However, as I mentioned to you yesterday, the construction industry in BC is very busy at the moment. Now that I have found out a little bit more about where scaffolders fit into the picture, I believe there is a reasonable chance that your daughter's fiance would be able to find a job as a scaffolder in BC. Whether or not he could persuade an employer to go to the trouble of applying for the LMO that would be necessary for him to get a temporary work permit, I don't know. But, as I mentioned yesterday, perhaps he could come over to Canada on a one-year BUNAC visa. Then, once he was in Canada, perhaps he could get his ducks in a row and organise a work permit. I believe it would take a lot of determination and perseverance, but perhaps it could be done.

I hope this at least has provided you with avenues you could explore.

BEVS Oct 31st 2007 10:08 am

Re: wanting to move to canada
 
bumping this for Bird Family who are once again considering Canada as an option.

Her husband is a crane driver
He is 49 years old
English speaking
Trade quals
15+ years in trade
Wife - no skills just school education

I tried a self-assessment for them - it seemed to come out at 69 . 2 over the 67.

forget the rest of the family for now.

1] Are crane drivers wanted by CIC ?
2] If so - where in Canada, as it's a might big place.
3] What is the time frame from application to CIC to gaining PR ?
4] Should they realistically be looking at a job offer for a successful PR application?
5] Should they really be looking at a job offer, then a work permit and then move onto application for PR.


They did look to New Zealand but now feel that Canada may be a better bet for a successful emigration. They may be right.


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