beckiwoo

Ok so first off, I am not talking about private schools in the 1970s. I was not born then I have no idea about them back then but yes I can believe that public schools were 'encouraging' young women to be Secretaries, Nurses, House Wives etc. because my mother went to public school in the 1960s and that is what she told me and she indeed become a secretary.

I was actually NOT aware of public bursaries for BC private schools so thank you fort that information.

I want my children to achieve the best that they can and believe me I will be looking very closely at schools when the time comes. However at $3-$5 a term and even more (I am guessing) for private schools, that is not going to be in our salary to do.

My experience in a public school system in the UK was very very positive. It was a village first school (elementary) with a uniform and no more then 15 children in the class and my high school was brand new and I was in the first year that it opened (120 students in that year) again with a uniform (blazer/tie etc) - I came out of my GCSES with A and Bs and went on to study A-Levels and go to University, I made sure my homework was completed the night I received it - maybe I am the exception to the rule?

I did attempt my 11/12+ for grammar school but did not get through and my parents were advised that in Grammar I would be towards the bottom of the year compared to public/secondary school where I would be towards the top of my year (unfortunately there was a lot of emphasis on Math and that was never my strong point)

One thing I will say that private schools have over the public out here is idea of a school uniform and I don't like the fact that high school student in public schools (that I have seen so far) doesn't have this. I feel that the uniform looks smarter and decreases bullying for children that perhaps come from lower income families.

So yes maybe I was wrong to use the word 'entitled' and I appreciate the fact that you gave me information on the subject that was not aware.

dbd33

I thought the containers a reasonably good idea, better than using vacant land to park cars. I should say though that the child has moved on and now deals with a different type of prosecution, she no longer works in the DTES. I enjoyed getting the champagne socialist view of Vancouver politics and the only thing that really gave me pause was when she said that she hadn't dealt with anyone who wasn't white or Asian, as in Chinese, for years. I queried this and she said that, yes, there are Indians in the suburbs, but there aren't any in Kits and the legal system is all white so she's just not exposed to minorities. That's really different from Toronto. Apparently there is one shop in somewhere called New West where one can buy Jamaican groceries, Loblaws here keeps the basic items.

I heard of someone who lives in a van. Someone who lost her tenancy and cannot find another one as she has a dog. Pet friendly rentals are rare in Vancouver whereas they're nominally standard in Toronto.

A prevalence of private education is arguably bad for the children involved since private schools tend to eccentric indoctrination, it's certainly bad for the city as it lowers the quality of education available overall and, allows people to make the spurious argument that, since they're not using the public school system, they shouldn't have to pay taxes toward it. I was surprised that such a divisive system exists in Vancouver.

Is it worse than England? Certainly it's better than Luton. And it's always interesting to visit and/or live in somewhere different. It has the climate of Belfast though, take wellies.

scrubbedexpat091

Yes very very difficult to find pet friendly housing, very anti-pet in Vancouver/LM.

For Ontario,

:No pet” provisions void

14. A provision in a tenancy agreement prohibiting the presence of animals in or about the residential complex is void. 2006, c. 17, s. 14.


BC Allows such provisions, so more difficult to find pet friendly rentals here.

Ontario allows landlords to reject potential tenants if the landlord thinks they may have a pet, but once a landlord accepts a tenant, in most circumstances the landlord cannot evict the tenant for having a pet.

scilly

First, a misunderstanding ............. my daughter was not in school in the 1970s, she was only just born. But it was our experience with a friend's daughter who in ca 1970 expressed interest in being an aeronautical engineer. The school set about finding out what she needed to do to be accepted into a university, worked out how to teach her the work that was not in the normal curriculum while keeping to the provincial curriculum for graduation, and helped her all the way. She was accepted into MIT in the US ............ THE top place at that time for aeronautical engineering.

That experience convinced us 10 years later to make enquiries and eventually to send our daughter there.

It was in 1992 that the local public schools were STILL holding career fairs and encouraging the girls to go in for secretaries, nurses, etc instead of aiming higher. That shocked me!!! And my daughter and her friends didn't believe it when they were invited to attend one such career fair in Grade 11 ........... they were already thinking in terms of university, becoming doctors, architects, scientists, etc etc. Plus many of them were working out how to get the money to fund university education themselves.

You were not alone in doing your homework the night you got it ........... I did, so did my daughter, so did most of my close friends.


I also like the school uniform .......... it actually worked out cheaper than outfitting a child for public school. I got that experience gained from listening to my sister-i-l who had 3 children in public school in the north who had to buy at least half new sets of clothing every year. Some years I didn't buy anything new for school apart form new socks or a pair of shoes! It also actually stopped any visible divide between wealthy and non wealthy children ....... they all had to wear the same clothing at school


Another thing that surprised me was when I worked out the cost of the school per month vs the cost of daycare per month. I paid LESS than for the daycare. I'm not sure that applies now when daycare costs seem so so high. All I did after paying for the first term, was to put the previous amount paid to daycare into a savings account every month ............ and then I had the next term's fees all ready to be handed over!!

scilly

You really shouldn't tell half the story ..... or perhaps you didn't know the true story

I do because that happened close by.

All the protesters except one were Chinese, the singleton was a Caucasian from outside the district who they asked to be their spokesperson because none of them could speak good English.

Most of them lived more than 10 blocks away from the site.

The students at the high school understood the situation better than the adults did .... thank goodness!

The result????

The housing is up, has been lived for several months, and there has been no word of any major problems, certainly none affecting the high school, the elementary school or the Ideal Mini School .. all of which is what the protesters said WOULD happen.

scrubbedexpat091

Your comment to me seems your putting down nurses by the comment aim higher, nurses are well educated skilled professionals, on par with any other professional career in my view, nursing to me is not a career that should be looked down upon.

beckiwoo

scrubbedexpat091

My mom wanted to be a nurse but became a paramedic instead, 2 years of college at the time. plus time spent in school for EMT and 1 year working as EMT.

I still think its a 2 year program in California, but to be a paramedic need to be an EMT for 1 year which is a 6 month to 1 year course depending on school.

Close to 4 years of training between school and EMT on the job but only an associates degree at the end.

I did the EMT course in 2004 before moving here. Only college class I ever passed. Got an A.

Instructor was surprised as I never talked once in class, but the learning was repetitive style and that type of learning I excel in. Lol

DigitalGhost

As one of the types of people you're referring to, I have to throw my hat in here. It's not that people of those age groups are averse to living in quieter areas. It's that when you work in IT, media, or other sectors that those groups often lean towards, opportunities in smaller cities can be limited.

Even if you do secure a job in a small town, there's every chance you might have to relocate to get your next one so putting down roots can be extremely difficult. That's why I personally could never consider it.

crofty82

DigitalGhost

It does happen. In the UK for example software development companies and games studios often base themselves in the middle of nowhere to save on rent but it usually results in people being forced to relocate a lot whenever they need to change employer.

rawsalad

When I was living in the UK and visiting Vancouver the common comment was "oh You mean he's not used to the rain?" I lived near Manchester and no way does it rain as much as it does in Vancouver. I asked the locals how they managed and they are just so used to it that they think being asked the question is stupid. As stupid as thinking that the north of England rains as much as Vancouver.

Agree, renting is so looked down upon it's like they have absorbed the Asian philosophy of life. Didn't know about the schooling but then my sister lives in White Rock so maybe different rules there.

rawsalad

Varies per company. I have worked a couple of times for software companies down south (I lived in the north) that were based in villages and all developers worked remotely. About once a month we would all got together for meetings and lunch. I always hoped that more companies would be more location flexible with talent - but it's few and far between.

dbd33

I had to laugh at the clothes people wear for routine tasks, hooded jackets, waterproof over trousers, wellies, "muddy buddies". It's never clear if someone is going out for a pack of smokes or to compete in the Round the World Yacht Race.

BristolUK

That seems a fair enough description to me. Look at the number of "Old Etonian" types in Government. Two years ago Theresa May was praised for a Cabinet having the lowest number of attendees at fee paying, posh, schools in decades and even then it was a third of them.

Of course, you can get little brats produced in the state school system, too, just not entitled ones.