Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
Sep 23rd 2018, 2:20 pm
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Sep 23rd 2018, 3:17 pm
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Try to get to JN&Z before you leave, best pepperoni anywhere, (and the other stuff is great too). Closed Sunday and Monday.
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We got to the airport through quite a smart area, Shaughnessy. There were lost of 'golden pitchfork' posters; that's a protest against a marginal property tax increase for affluent homeowners. Greed seems more naked in Vancouver then in Ontario. Speaking of which, here are some chuggers:
Sep 23rd 2018, 3:25 pm
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Exorbitant parking fees at the airport is something I don't like about Vancouver; in Regina I think it's still a toonie. Hope you had a good trip, and thanks for sharing!
Sep 23rd 2018, 4:18 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
you're the one that categorized kids who go to private school as "entitled little brats". I'm glad you're not my mum....
Sep 23rd 2018, 5:35 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
Hope you felt better for that!
I am glad Im not related to you as you get offended by everything so easily
Sep 23rd 2018, 6:36 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
is vancouver worse than england though....thats my question.
Sep 23rd 2018, 7:29 pm
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Sep 23rd 2018, 7:54 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
thats a difficult question to answer as it depends on different factors like leisure, work life balance, cost comparisons, standard of living etc.
it is also unique to each inviduals needs.
There are some great positives in Vancouver and Canada in general compared to the UK. On the other side there are things that could be improved/not as good as the UK.
it is also unique to each inviduals needs.
There are some great positives in Vancouver and Canada in general compared to the UK. On the other side there are things that could be improved/not as good as the UK.
Sep 23rd 2018, 8:23 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
dbd33 .
it really would help if you got your stories straight, and correct!!
1. The trailer park that you tried to show as decrepit, and seemed to sneered at because it was on an Indian reservation?
That First Nations is one of the wealthiest, if not THE wealthiest, First Nations in Canada. The nearby Park Royal Mall, which you might have been shown AND the high rises between the mall and the bridge are all on their land. The trailer park has a lot of people living there permanently in very nice homes (not quite the pre-fabs that you called them). The bit that you saw from the bridge is actually mainly sites for tourists in RVs.
2. The shipping container homes???
They are a means of getting homeless people off the streets. They are not usually being put on car parks, in fact I don't know of even one that has been put on a car park ..... but on city-owned land that is not intended for development within the next 3-5 years. The intention is to provide somewhere for homeless people to live, with care aides available, get off drugs (hopefully), and then be moved into permanent housing within 3-5 years.
There are 2 more permanent places in the Downtown Eastside which are intended as more long-term housing for women, especially Indigenous women, to help them get off the streets.
https://www.cbc.ca/life/home/6-shipp...oals-1.4058839
People like thee and me are buying converted shipping containers for mucho dollars for use as cabins and houses in rural areas.
They're even used in the UK!
Yes, there are things wrong with Vancouver, but one heck of a lot right ..... you only see the bad things!
it really would help if you got your stories straight, and correct!!
1. The trailer park that you tried to show as decrepit, and seemed to sneered at because it was on an Indian reservation?
That First Nations is one of the wealthiest, if not THE wealthiest, First Nations in Canada. The nearby Park Royal Mall, which you might have been shown AND the high rises between the mall and the bridge are all on their land. The trailer park has a lot of people living there permanently in very nice homes (not quite the pre-fabs that you called them). The bit that you saw from the bridge is actually mainly sites for tourists in RVs.
2. The shipping container homes???
They are a means of getting homeless people off the streets. They are not usually being put on car parks, in fact I don't know of even one that has been put on a car park ..... but on city-owned land that is not intended for development within the next 3-5 years. The intention is to provide somewhere for homeless people to live, with care aides available, get off drugs (hopefully), and then be moved into permanent housing within 3-5 years.
There are 2 more permanent places in the Downtown Eastside which are intended as more long-term housing for women, especially Indigenous women, to help them get off the streets.
https://www.cbc.ca/life/home/6-shipp...oals-1.4058839
People like thee and me are buying converted shipping containers for mucho dollars for use as cabins and houses in rural areas.
They're even used in the UK!
Yes, there are things wrong with Vancouver, but one heck of a lot right ..... you only see the bad things!
Sep 23rd 2018, 8:39 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
beckiwoo posted .
Hope you felt better for that!
I am glad Im not related to you as you get offended by everything so easily
I was also insulted by your comment .....
........ you have NO idea as to why some children are sent to private schools, and to call them all :entitled little brats" is inexcusable in my opinion.
You have no idea why we sent our daughter to a private school .......... but it was the best thing for her in 2 ways. First, they allowed her to develop her character and taught her to stand up for her (and our) values. Second, they encouraged her to go for whatever she wanted to do. While the local public schools were steering girls to being nurses, flight attendants, and secretaries, her school encouraged and supported their girls to become doctors, architects, aeronautical engineers, if that was their dream, even back as far as the 1970s.
I grant you that a lot of children that go to private schools are from wealthy families, but an equal number of them are. In addition, most private schools in BC offer bursaries and scholarships for poor children.
The majority of children are no more "entitled" than I was considered to be in the 1950s when I went to the local grammar school ..........."entitled" in that case because I had brains and my parents scraped to buy the school uniform!!
Secondly, you need to think of the private schools that take in children with learning problems ......... the one in Vancouver that is for dyslexics, or the one for children on the autism spectrum.
Are they "entitled" because their parents want them to achieve the best they can?
I feel sorry for you, if that is indeed what you think.
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Originally Posted by rivingtonpike 
you're the one that categorized kids who go to private school as "entitled little brats". I'm glad you're not my mum....
you're the one that categorized kids who go to private school as "entitled little brats". I'm glad you're not my mum....Hope you felt better for that!
I am glad Im not related to you as you get offended by everything so easily
I was also insulted by your comment .....
........ you have NO idea as to why some children are sent to private schools, and to call them all :entitled little brats" is inexcusable in my opinion.
You have no idea why we sent our daughter to a private school .......... but it was the best thing for her in 2 ways. First, they allowed her to develop her character and taught her to stand up for her (and our) values. Second, they encouraged her to go for whatever she wanted to do. While the local public schools were steering girls to being nurses, flight attendants, and secretaries, her school encouraged and supported their girls to become doctors, architects, aeronautical engineers, if that was their dream, even back as far as the 1970s.
I grant you that a lot of children that go to private schools are from wealthy families, but an equal number of them are. In addition, most private schools in BC offer bursaries and scholarships for poor children.
The majority of children are no more "entitled" than I was considered to be in the 1950s when I went to the local grammar school ..........."entitled" in that case because I had brains and my parents scraped to buy the school uniform!!
Secondly, you need to think of the private schools that take in children with learning problems ......... the one in Vancouver that is for dyslexics, or the one for children on the autism spectrum.
Are they "entitled" because their parents want them to achieve the best they can?
I feel sorry for you, if that is indeed what you think.
Sep 23rd 2018, 8:49 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
Just a side note only Park Royal South is on Native land, Park Royal north is not.
Sep 23rd 2018, 8:58 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
Correction noted!
I was posting from memory, and forgot the north side of the mall. We've only ever gone to the south side, as it has been the most attractive.
I was posting from memory, and forgot the north side of the mall. We've only ever gone to the south side, as it has been the most attractive.
Sep 23rd 2018, 10:10 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
You read sneering into that? And decrepit?
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Sep 23rd 2018, 11:14 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
Big problem with Vancouver is the NIMBY syndrome that goes on.
People will complain when people live in an RV or in a tent.
City or province wants to build temporary housing for homeless people complain and protest they don't want it in their neighborhood.
I recall one protest last year of residents complaining because a high school was nearby, a not so small group of high school students came out to protest the protesters and were in support of the housing.
Its better to have the homeless housed with supports and supervision in place vs living on the street or in a tent.
The homeless issue will only get worse and there are more working homeless out there then people may realize working but not earning enough to pay rent.
People will complain when people live in an RV or in a tent.
City or province wants to build temporary housing for homeless people complain and protest they don't want it in their neighborhood.
I recall one protest last year of residents complaining because a high school was nearby, a not so small group of high school students came out to protest the protesters and were in support of the housing.
Its better to have the homeless housed with supports and supervision in place vs living on the street or in a tent.
The homeless issue will only get worse and there are more working homeless out there then people may realize working but not earning enough to pay rent.
Sep 23rd 2018, 11:36 pm
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Re: Vancouver, still not my cup of tea.
Big problem with Vancouver is the NIMBY syndrome that goes on.
People will complain when people live in an RV or in a tent.City or province wants to build temporary housing for homeless people complain and protest they don't want it in their neighborhood.I recall one protest last year of residents complaining because a high school was nearby, a not so small group of high school students came out to protest the protesters and were in support of the housing.Its better to have the homeless housed with supports and supervision in place vs living on the street or in a tent.The homeless issue will only get worse and there are more working homeless out there then people may realize working but not earning enough to pay rent.
People will complain when people live in an RV or in a tent.City or province wants to build temporary housing for homeless people complain and protest they don't want it in their neighborhood.I recall one protest last year of residents complaining because a high school was nearby, a not so small group of high school students came out to protest the protesters and were in support of the housing.Its better to have the homeless housed with supports and supervision in place vs living on the street or in a tent.The homeless issue will only get worse and there are more working homeless out there then people may realize working but not earning enough to pay rent.