Vancouver, don't get it.
#226
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Joined: Jul 2007
Location: White Rock BC
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Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
In Vancouver? That Vancouver in British Columbia? I haven't been anywhere so white in years.
Even then, it assumes that all white people are of one culture and all Asian people are of one culture. Which isn't true either.
#228
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Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 6,695
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
Can I do some statistics? London I know, Vancouver too, and I am a frequent visitor to Seattle. I have never been to Buffalo, Washington DC or Detroit so I can't comment. However, your statements on the first three did not ring true to me so I spent 5 minutes researching in depth in wikipedia. So this must be true:
London UK - 69% white, 11% black and 20% mixed or other.
Seattle WA - 69% white, 8% black and 23% other.
Vancouver BC - 47% white, 1% black and 52% other.
Conclusion is that there are a lot fewer black people in Vancouver than London or Seattle, and on that we can all agree.
London UK - 69% white, 11% black and 20% mixed or other.
Seattle WA - 69% white, 8% black and 23% other.
Vancouver BC - 47% white, 1% black and 52% other.
Conclusion is that there are a lot fewer black people in Vancouver than London or Seattle, and on that we can all agree.
Places I've been from dbd's list: Washington, DC, Toronto, Seattle, London. I really noticed the black/white segregation in Washington DC & Seattle. Less so in Toronto. London gives me claustrophobia, but there's alot going on which is nice.
#230
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
I haven't noticed that. Mind, I worked there at the Bureau of Prisons, the INS (when it was that and since it changed the name) and some defense related installations. All are governmental so I suppose they may have hiring quotas. When last there we went for a birthday party in a large, gimmicky, restaurant, Marrakesh. The crowd there was highly mixed. I've ridden on the subway, I haven't seen segregated cars. Of course, I'm not a member of a visible minority so I'm not attuned to all self-segregations, where did you notice segregation and what form did it take?
#231
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
Well, no, there's no such assumption implied. I was just struck by the singular look of the people on the streets. "Washed out" one might call it, perhaps people of a range of hues move there and are rendered pallid by the climate.
#232
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
I haven't noticed that. Mind, I worked there at the Bureau of Prisons, the INS (when it was that and since it changed the name) and some defense related installations. All are governmental so I suppose they may have hiring quotas. When last there we went for a birthday party in a large, gimmicky, restaurant, Marrakesh. The crowd there was highly mixed. I've ridden on the subway, I haven't seen segregated cars. Of course, I'm not a member of a visible minority so I'm not attuned to all self-segregations, where did you notice segregation and what form did it take?
But really DC? Its one of the most historically noted segregated cities I've ever been too.
Last edited by Oink; May 31st 2012 at 2:24 am.
#233
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
I don't think it can be that bad, on a previous occasion (the mate with the birthdays isn't a very original thinker) we walked there from Dupont Circle, nothing set me to thinking a cab would be prudent. I'm generally careful in Washington. I find the city to be more mixed than most, two blocks this way or that, and things suddenly look scary whereas, for example, in NYC you don't have to worry too much if you stay south of 110th (it's probably gentrified to 115th or something now) and in New Orleans (damn, forgot having just been there, that's not a very white place), the dangerous bits have handy Katrina signs painted on all the buildings.
#234
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Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
I haven't noticed that. Mind, I worked there at the Bureau of Prisons, the INS (when it was that and since it changed the name) and some defense related installations. All are governmental so I suppose they may have hiring quotas. When last there we went for a birthday party in a large, gimmicky, restaurant, Marrakesh. The crowd there was highly mixed. I've ridden on the subway, I haven't seen segregated cars. Of course, I'm not a member of a visible minority so I'm not attuned to all self-segregations, where did you notice segregation and what form did it take?
#235
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
Residentially, sure, people go home to different quadrants but, in the day, bustling streets of mixed crowds. As a visitor I don't think you'd notice segregation in the way that, say, driving in Chicago, you pass the L platform and everyone waiting there is black while everyone in a car in the traffic is white. Or, in Saint Louis, there are no white people at all (except me) on the subway thingy.
#237
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,139
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
I guess, in a sense, that it is unfortunate that everyone knows of your connection to dbd33 as some of the reaction you got was related to his (presumably intentionally provocative) statement that Vancouver was the whitest place he had ever been. So, upset? No. Incredulous? For sure.
Somehow, logging onto this forum has become part of my morning routine for the past 5 years or so. To be made to feel uncomfortable now doing so is a sad reflection of the personalities who have chosen to throw their weight around, and then try to pass it off as "piss taking". I have never experienced behaviour like this directed at me up until this week, although we've all seen the poor treatment some new posters get. I hope the contributors of this thread are pleased with themselves, I would not tolerate their attitude for a second in real life and I'm afraid the same goes for the internet.
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#238
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,088
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
What is unfortunate is that some people saw fit to attack others for no justified reason, to add nothing constructive to the debate but to pounce on every post with hostility. That some posters would see me as fair game because they think it's ok to assume my opinion based on that of another poster is unacceptable and slightly disturbing. If that is not a "personal attack" however thinly veiled then I don't know what is and I have raised my concerns about that with a moderator.
Somehow, logging onto this forum has become part of my morning routine for the past 5 years or so. To be made to feel uncomfortable now doing so is a sad reflection of the personalities who have chosen to throw their weight around, and then try to pass it off as "piss taking". I have never experienced behaviour like this directed at me up until this week, although we've all seen the poor treatment some new posters get. I hope the contributors of this thread are pleased with themselves, I would not tolerate their attitude for a second in real life and I'm afraid the same goes for the internet.
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Somehow, logging onto this forum has become part of my morning routine for the past 5 years or so. To be made to feel uncomfortable now doing so is a sad reflection of the personalities who have chosen to throw their weight around, and then try to pass it off as "piss taking". I have never experienced behaviour like this directed at me up until this week, although we've all seen the poor treatment some new posters get. I hope the contributors of this thread are pleased with themselves, I would not tolerate their attitude for a second in real life and I'm afraid the same goes for the internet.
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#239
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
Everyone needs to calm down eh....
Last edited by iaink; May 31st 2012 at 2:35 pm.
#240
Re: Vancouver, don't get it.
Could someone please explain this "other half" thing? Is there some inner sanctum thing going on here amongst posters I'm oblivious to? I thought the whole point of this forum was to share knowledge and experiences of immigrating and assimilating into a new life in a new country.
I find the whole petty squabbling that seems to go on a bit embarrasing and slightly distasteful.
Maybe I'm missing something....
I find the whole petty squabbling that seems to go on a bit embarrasing and slightly distasteful.
Maybe I'm missing something....