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Old May 29th 2012, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
I think that describing the student population of UBC as homogeneous is willful perverseness at its finest.
Not sure I would agree. Poilte, middle-class and well off would be my description. There is a relatively significant aboriginal group of students but other than this very little diversity.
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Old May 29th 2012, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by lmartin999
Not sure I would agree. Poilte, middle-class and well off would be my description. There is a relatively significant aboriginal group of students but other than this very little diversity.
You know perfectly well that I wasn't talking about a diversity of manners.
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Old May 29th 2012, 4:53 pm
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I really like Toronto and Vancouver. But they are very different cities.

...and now I'm going to go admire myself in a building.
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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
Asians are all lumped together. Like one homogenous group.
I suppose this wouldn't be a good moment for a link to alllooksame. Nonetheless, just as Europeans are not visibly diverse, South Asians are not.

At UBC, we only saw a subset of students,a few hundred. Obviously, law isn't an area in which interesting ethnicity is encouraged, perhaps there is diversity in other faculties.

And no, I didn't intend "black and Arab" to be a comprehensive list of the world's ethnicities, just a couple of visible minorities I'm used to seeing every day. There are few hispanics in Guelph or I would have noticed that there aren't many of them in Vancouver either.

I do wonder, if people genuinely think Vancouver to have a diverse population, if it's not just the pc thing to say, what would they make of NYC?
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
You know perfectly well that I wasn't talking about a diversity of manners.
No, I know and it was a serious reply. Apart from ethnicity I really think there is very little diversity. Not something unique to UBC but perhaps more marked.
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DAMN I look hot today. I like the way the drizzle softens the edges around my eyebags.
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Originally Posted by dbd33
I suppose this wouldn't be a good moment for a link to alllooksame. Nonetheless, just as Europeans are not visibly diverse, South Asians are not.

At UBC, we only saw a subset of students,a few hundred. Obviously, law isn't an area in which interesting ethnicity is encouraged, perhaps there is diversity in other faculties.

And no, I didn't intend "black and Arab" to be a comprehensive list of the world's ethnicities, just a couple of visible minorities I'm used to seeing every day. There are few hispanics in Guelph or I would have noticed that there aren't many of them in Vancouver either.

I do wonder, if people genuinely think Vancouver to have a diverse population, if it's not just the pc thing to say, what would they make of NYC?
Speaking only for self, I don't think about it and I like it here.

I also liked NYC though it's a bit crowded for me - I did notice it was much more segregated than Vancouver though - which is something I noticed much more in the East in general - ie. black people in service positions, white people not.

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Huh! I am often the only "white" face on th bus !
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Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon
Huh! I am often the only "white" face on th bus !
Ditto.

There have been several swim classes where spawn has been the only caucasian. Her school is pretty mixed too. same with Brownies.
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[QUOTE=dbd33;10089026]I suppose this wouldn't be a good moment for a link to alllooksame. Nonetheless, just as Europeans are not visibly diverse, South Asians are not.

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So the diversity that you notice is the visible kind. Language, culture, food, religious belief, etc. etc less so.
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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
I find it weird that, in posts like this, the only people who count as non-homogenous are black.

That's weird.

And yes, there aren't a lot of black people in Van -that's true. But there are lots of Asia-Pacific people, with all their different languages and cultures and stuff, around 50% of the population in Van I believe. Cos, like, Vancouver is a pacific city, not an Atlantic one. But I guess they don't count? I dunno. It's weird.
Please note my use of the words "for example". I threw it in there twice to avoid having to list every ethnicity under the sun and to fend off any petulant jibes that, by picking one colour of person, I am somehow being a nasty racist.

That failed, then.

It is clear now that people who live in Vancouver find it cosmopolitan and ethnically diverse. As a visitor, I noticed less of a mixture of all colours of people. I posed a question up-thread which has gone unanswered, perhaps it got lost in all the strident keyboard bashing. I only wondered f there are ethnic neighbourhoods where people gravitate, similar to Toronto, or if everyone just mixes in together. If it is the former, then I would better understand what I noticed as a visitor.
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Old May 29th 2012, 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ireland2canada
Please note my use of the words "for example". I threw it in there twice to avoid having to list every ethnicity under the sun and to fend off any petulant jibes that, by picking one colour of person, I am somehow being a nasty racist.

That failed, then.

It is clear now that people who live in Vancouver find it cosmopolitan and ethnically diverse. As a visitor, I noticed less of a mixture of all colours of people. I posed a question up-thread which has gone unanswered, perhaps it got lost in all the strident keyboard bashing. I only wondered f there are ethnic neighbourhoods where people gravitate, similar to Toronto, or if everyone just mixes in together. If it is the former, then I would better understand what I noticed as a visitor.
There is no strident key board bashing, we know you're wrong .

Surrey, Richmond, burnaby...yes there are ethnic neighbourhoods. Esp. Surrey cos it's cheap(er). If you wanted Indian you should probably have gone to Scott Road, but it's not pretty...
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I2C yes there are "neighbourhoods" china town N. Japan town, litttle Korean Italy and punjabu market also portugese and jewish areasn but none really exclusive

- I have philipine and russian neighbour and a kortean church opposite!
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Arab people.
From what i've seen, they mainly stay around the North Shore.
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Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon
I2C yes there are "neighbourhoods" china town N. Japan town, litttle Korean Italy and punjabu market also portugese and jewish areasn but none really exclusive

- I have philipine and russian neighbour and a kortean church opposite!
Ok, thanks. Just wondered if we missed the intense rainbow of people because we were not in the right neighbourhood.

Originally Posted by Kiwilass
There is no strident key board bashing, we know you're wrong .

Surrey, Richmond, burnaby...yes there are ethnic neighbourhoods. Esp. Surrey cos it's cheap(er). If you wanted Indian you should probably have gone to Scott Road, but it's not pretty...
Forgive me, but aren't those places suburbs of Vancouver, or cities in their own right, or something? Just asking, I'm not bothered to look it up or anything. I did not have time to head to the outer reaches to find the cosmopolis, maybe next time. Incidentally, I had dinner with someone who works for the City of Richmond. She's white but was an overt lesbian so there's a point for diversity.
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