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Old Mar 20th 2012, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
Moncton?
Not enough pit bulls.
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Old Mar 20th 2012, 9:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
Moncton?
Cheap housing, among other things?

This particular survey strikes me as being about real living, not airyfairy "quality of life" executive lifestyle comparison.
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Old Mar 20th 2012, 10:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
Moncton?
Slipped a little this time but still in the top 10%.
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WooHoo! Red Deer is in the top ten
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Old Mar 20th 2012, 11:53 pm
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
Wow it placed that high ehh, amazing.

We got 93rd Woo Hoo

New Glasgow last, anyone from there to tell us why? Other than having the name, Glasgow in the name.
New Glasgow, was once likened to the London borough of Richmond on this forum. I would guess the poll would be wrong, way wrong, as I wouldn't believe for a second our former poster could be.
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Not enough pit bulls.
You're probably right
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Old Mar 21st 2012, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by Flogger
New Glasgow, was once likened to the London borough of Richmond on this forum. I would guess the poll would be wrong, way wrong, as I wouldn't believe for a second our former poster could be.
I have driven through New Glasgow, seems a nice enough place, have no idea on its statistics but its not offensive in any way - like say Merthyr Tydfil
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Amazing that I live near number 3. Kingston has Queen's University plus about 3 penitentiaries and you can't tell who belongs where !
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Old Mar 21st 2012, 1:02 pm
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Default Re: Vancouver 56th best place to live in Canada

If you click on the headings it lists the cities in order for that category.

Coming top for culture is Vancouver. Next is North Vancouver and Victoria - I assume that's an access/proximity thing going on.

No surprise to see Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa right up there too.

But separating the Vs and those three cities is Canmore, Alberta. No offence to anyone there, but why? I've Wiki'd and I can't see anything that stands out.
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Default Re: Vancouver 56th best place to live in Canada

Originally Posted by BristolUK
If you click on the headings it lists the cities in order for that category.

Coming top for culture is Vancouver. Next is North Vancouver and Victoria - I assume that's an access/proximity thing going on.

No surprise to see Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa right up there too.

But separating the Vs and those three cities is Canmore, Alberta. No offence to anyone there, but why? I've Wiki'd and I can't see anything that stands out.
Its on the doorstep of baanf and calgary, and has internationaly recognised festivals... could be part of the reason.
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Old Mar 21st 2012, 1:54 pm
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Default Re: Vancouver 56th best place to live in Canada

Originally Posted by iaink
Its on the doorstep of baanf and calgary, and has internationaly recognised festivals... could be part of the reason.
Just looking in more detail. It looks to be more about employment rather than "what goes on."

CULTURE: Bonus points – A city could receive up to 5 points based on the percentage of people employed in arts, culture, recreation and sports.
Obviously more employment relating to those things might suggest more of it, but not necessarily.

You might also get somewhere with a higher than normal percentage of people employed in those things, but most of the "users" are actually out of towners. That doesn't necessarily contribute to it being a good place to live.

It made me look at other parts. It's riddled with what are effectively duplicate categories or opposites. And oddities.

Walking/Cycling to work isn't really about cycle lanes, safety, ease of cycling etc it's about how many people actually do it.

One can argue there's a connection - they do it because there are cycle lanes for example. But the survey marks a city down for bad weather and because bad weather makes you less likely to cycle or walk, the city sort of loses double points.

Then again, not many walkers/cyclists could actually be down to a very good public transport system. That's a plus isn't it? Even more so when the buses are fitted with a rack for bikes enabling you to get somewhere for a more attractive bike ride in your leisure time.

A city gets ranking points for newer cars, but maybe there are fewer new cars about as people don't need them as much thanks to great public transport.

There's a point for each Hospital, Uni or College. So a city of 100k with one of each scores three points and a city of half a million with 3 of each scores 3 times as much even though its populace is less well served.

There are points relating to number of doctors per 1000 and points for % of people employed as health professionals. So a city with a lot of doctors scores well. And they might also do well on the health professionals score even though the reason might mainly be because of the doctors. They may not have any more of all the other health pros than another city yet they may get rated higher.


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As I said, as surveys goes this one has one of the more usefull methodologies, but its not entirely foolproof I guess.

I figure a town where more people are buying new cars indicates a town where more people are confident of their long term job stability / income perhaps? Its an indicator of a healthy economy.

The culture thing is a bit odd, a place with little industry is going to have a higher proportion of arts/ creative jobs isnt it? Is that a good thing?

As far as biking goes the west coast would have a climate advantage I would think. Cycling in the Ontario or East Coast Winter wouldnt be high on my list of things to do.
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Old Mar 21st 2012, 2:34 pm
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As I said, as surveys goes this one has one of the more usefull methodologies, but its not entirely foolproof I guess.
It's definitely more thorough. And far more fact based (using the census) rather than using samples.

I figure a town where more people are buying new cars indicates a town where more people are confident of their long term job stability / income perhaps? Its an indicator of a healthy economy.
Yep. But then more new cars suggest higher incomes and they already scored that in a separate category.

The culture thing is a bit odd, a place with little industry is going to have a higher proportion of arts/ creative jobs isnt it? Is that a good thing?
Plus, what if it's seasonal? Like sports and/or vacation/tourism related. Those employed in it might be out of a job the rest of the year and the town might be dead. But they get marked high because of the % employed when they're doing it?

As far as biking goes the west coast would have a climate advantage I would think. Cycling in the Ontario or East Coast Winter wouldnt be high on my list of things to do.
All true, but if it relates to a journey to work hills might put one off.

This was the first winter I've been off my bike. There were longer periods of "much too cold" and a lot more ice around. I didn't want to chance it. Usually it snows, the streets are cleared and it's easy enough to cycle again.
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All i know is that Edmonton, Reed Deer and Regina making the list tells me the relevance of the study. Seems it's more based on affordability and lack of over-crowding, areas where major cities are likely to fair less favourably.

As for climate, i guess it comes down to how you define it. Vancouver for instance, is certainly warmer in the winter, but is much more gloomier than some of the places on the list. By the same standard, other places can be sunny but oppressively humid in the summer. Bit subjective really. Victoria has one of the better climates with half of vancouvers notorious rain and likely amongst the sunniest in the summer months.
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Lies, Damned lies and "Best Place to Live" statistics!
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