Toronto's pretty Ugly compared to London
May 7th 2009, 4:59 pm
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Re: Toronto's pretty Ugly compared to London
Even in absolute numbers Toronto has way more immigants. If the population is 3,000,000 that's better than 1,500,000 immigrants, London would have to be 25% immigrants to match that but it doesn't even have a 10% immigrant population. Only Miami has more immigrants by both measures than Toronto.
Wasnt sure of the (true) % in toronto or the (approx) population so took the 'easy' route.
May 7th 2009, 5:01 pm
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Re: Toronto's pretty Ugly compared to London
Looks like Brampton:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southall#Race
Tiny proportion of the population of London though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southall#Race
Tiny proportion of the population of London though.
May 7th 2009, 5:04 pm
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Re: Toronto's pretty Ugly compared to London
Note also that there's a comparison trap, Wikipedia lists people by race (I assume self-identified race) so first or second generation Southallians (?) count as "Indian" or whatever. The 50%+ figure for Toronto is actual "off the boat" immigrants. If you count all the people in Toronto who think they're foreign it's not 50% but much more, perhaps even 100%
May 7th 2009, 5:07 pm
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Re: Toronto's pretty Ugly compared to London
I haven't really got to grips with Toronto. The first few times I visited I hated it, thought it very small town. It's growing on me now, the last time I went was with a local and so I saw it in a different way.
If you want an upbeat view of TO then look at Rob's blog.
If you want an upbeat view of TO then look at Rob's blog.
Gosh, I've not been here on BE for ages, but a steady stream of visitors from here have been popping into me blog, so I thought I'd find out why.
Nice of you to point them in my direction and yes, I try give a fairly honest view of Tronno as I have experienced it in my 18 months here.
It's not somewhere I planned on living, but it's where we find ourselves and I decided to explore the city and get to know it. It's a fairly typical looking North American city, but it is filled with a diverse population that pretty much get on with life and each other. The various different cultures mean there are all manner of different restaurants and events.
I have grown to like this city, to enjoy living here and enjoy what it has to offer. I am continually surprised at all the great things there are to do.
It's not really clever to compare London to Toronto. If London works for you, stay there because you'll not find anywhere like it. If you want different, then think of finding somewhere that offers the best compromise of what it is you need. Anywhere is going to be a compromise as nowhere is going to fit the bill perfectly. You just need to know what it is that is most important.
Don't move just to get away from something, go to something. If things are that bad where you are, then anywhere will be better and will be an improvement. The right attitude is the most important thing to take with you when you move countries.
May 7th 2009, 5:11 pm
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Re: Toronto's pretty Ugly compared to London
Note also that there's a comparison trap, Wikipedia lists people by race (I assume self-identified race) so first or second generation Southallians (?) count as "Indian" or whatever. The 50%+ figure for Toronto is actual "off the boat" immigrants. If you count all the people in Toronto who think they're foreign it's not 50% but much more, perhaps even 100%
) but was born here and he actually 'admited' to being 'Canadian' (though he looked the same ethnic group as his wife
).
May 7th 2009, 5:14 pm
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Re: Toronto's pretty Ugly compared to London
I'm finding that here, My last home the nieghbours on one side called themselves Finish and Scandanavian (he was third generation she was second), the other side called themselves English and Ukranian (he was fourth generation, she was born here BUT yes the WHOLE town she grew up in was 99.9% Ukranian). The couple across the road she called herself chinese ( her sister claimed to be korean, if you can work that one out ) but was born here and he actually 'admited' to being 'Canadian' (though he looked the same ethnic group as his wife).
) but was born here and he actually 'admited' to being 'Canadian' (though he looked the same ethnic group as his wife).
May 7th 2009, 5:15 pm
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Re: Toronto's pretty Ugly compared to London
May 7th 2009, 5:20 pm
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Re: Toronto's pretty Ugly compared to London
Other than First Nations, Inuit and Metis, aren't all Canadians immigrants?
May 7th 2009, 5:24 pm
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Financially I don't think I could have done better elsewhere, although having made and squandered a lot of money isn't perhaps much of an acheivement. However I sought to look beyond crass materialism; perhaps in inspirational surroundings I might have been a poet or in some other way improved the world.
May 7th 2009, 5:29 pm
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