Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 12851830)
To be fair, politics is the number one reason I am mulling a move back to Canada right now.
Hardly the same thing as the comments and responses that are being made arguing their political viewpoints... Let's please keep to the OP's question without the political snarky comments to one another. |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
But...we are all getting snarky. It’s been seven weeks of more than a bit of fear, uncertainty and unpleasantness...with no clear way out in sight.
I vote that we all give ourselves a big pat on the back for playing together so nicely so far! Many thanks Siouxie for keeping us on course:thumbup: We get political because we care...if we keep it up...we might get the world back on track! It’s bloody snowing here again...and I would list that as a great big reason for Not moving to Canada! |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by MillieF
(Post 12852135)
But...we are all getting snarky. It’s been seven weeks of more than a bit of fear, uncertainty and unpleasantness...with no clear way out in sight.
I vote that we all give ourselves a big pat on the back for playing together so nicely so far! Many thanks Siouxie for keeping us on course:thumbup: We get political because we care...if we keep it up...we might get the world back on track! It’s bloody snowing here again...and I would list that as a great big reason for Not moving to Canada! Log fire here.. This is not a habitable climate. |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 12852136)
Log fire here.. This is not a habitable climate.
Certainly a reason to not move to the less inhabited parts of Canada, is the lack of willing and qualified contractors! |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by carcajou
(Post 12850073)
Toronto is just Buffalo or Cleveland on steroids.
How much time have you actually spent in any of the three, carcajou??? |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by abner
(Post 12853923)
Oh, bullshit.
How much time have you actually spent in any of the three, carcajou??? https://buffalonews.com/2019/07/19/t...n-for-buffalo/ https://www.blogto.com/city/2016/05/...al_as_toronto/ Toronto is perfectly fine as a place to live as are Buffalo and Cleveland. Those cities are some people's cup of tea but not for others. That shouldn't be causing anyone's back to go up. |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
The weather gets me down.
So much cold and rain. The winters last about five and a half months and then as soon as it warms up a bit we get mosquitoes. I came to live here with my wife but if I was a bit younger I'd probably look for somewhere a bit warmer. I don't think you can ever get used to the extreme cold weather if you're not used to it. |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
I guess the weather is a personal preference thing. Both myself and my wife prefer the climate here in SW Ontario to the UK.
The UK climate is either wet and cool / cold or warn and wet. When it is not, it is cloudy and windy. Summer is usually one particular week anytime from May to September (our experience of the home counties and Gloucestershire over many years). Yep, can be very cold in the winter here, but get equipped for it, get the appropriate clothes and it is fine. We happily walk from our house to our local sports bar (about 1 km) in all weathers. Actually like the snow and frost, there are many 'high pressure' clear and sunny and very cold days, which we quite like. Yep winter can drag on and 'spring' varies from days that are the remnants of winter to 20 degrees from early March to the end of May. Summer can be very hot and steamy, much to the surprise of non-Canadian who are convinced it is cold here all the time!. Mozzies nowhere near as bad here in London as we experienced south of Ottawa, but yes, a lot more than in the UK. There are at least 'proper' seasons. I guess it is all down to personal preference and what one makes of it. |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by carcajou
(Post 12853956)
I am not going to bother replying directly to another one of your illogically aggressive and confrontational posts. For the rest of the forum, here are a few links on how Toronto and Buffalo had a common trajectory, similar history and even like skylines until Toronto's growth and Buffalo's decline provided some separation. It is some interesting history including how as late as the 1980s, people from Toronto used to go to Buffalo for nightlife.
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Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by Hurlabrick
(Post 12854022)
I guess the weather is a personal preference thing. Both myself and my wife prefer the climate here in SW Ontario to the UK.
The UK climate is either wet and cool / cold or warn and wet. When it is not, it is cloudy and windy. Summer is usually one particular week anytime from May to September (our experience of the home counties and Gloucestershire over many years). Yep, can be very cold in the winter here, but get equipped for it, get the appropriate clothes and it is fine. We happily walk from our house to our local sports bar (about 1 km) in all weathers. Actually like the snow and frost, there are many 'high pressure' clear and sunny and very cold days, which we quite like. Yep winter can drag on and 'spring' varies from days that are the remnants of winter to 20 degrees from early March to the end of May. Summer can be very hot and steamy, much to the surprise of non-Canadian who are convinced it is cold here all the time!. Mozzies nowhere near as bad here in London as we experienced south of Ottawa, but yes, a lot more than in the UK. There are at least 'proper' seasons. I guess it is all down to personal preference and what one makes of it. |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by carcajou
(Post 12853956)
...until Toronto's growth and Buffalo's decline provided some separation.
From an Australian perspective--for carcajou's benefit--describing Toronto as "Buffalo on steroids" is like describing Melbourne as "Geelong on steroids". And yes, I am biased. I've moved around a lot over the decades, both while growing up and later while chasing professional opportunities, but I've spent more time in Toronto than anywhere else, and it's the closest thing I have to a "home town". But, I didn't really appreciate just how remarkable a city it is until I started (or rather continued, but as an adult) moving and travelling internationally. There are several other great "livable" cities out there--Melbourne, San Diego, and Copenhagen stand out for me--and even more "great cities" that aren't very livable (unless you're independently wealthy). And then there's Buffalo, which doesn't rank in either category. ;-) |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by abner
(Post 12854122)
Buffalo was never more than a relatively successful regional center even in its heyday, and has been in decline since 1950. In contrast, Toronto has been the largest city in English Canada since Confederation in 1867, and after a long rivalry with Montreal, decisively eclipsed that city in the early 1980s as a financial and population center. The breadth and depth of financial, cultural, and educational opportunities hasn't been comparable between Toronto and Buffalo for generations. Torontonians mostly visit Buffalo to shop at the outlet malls, when the exchange rates are good.
From an Australian perspective--for carcajou's benefit--describing Toronto as "Buffalo on steroids" is like describing Melbourne as "Geelong on steroids". And yes, I am biased. I've moved around a lot over the decades, both while growing up and later while chasing professional opportunities, but I've spent more time in Toronto than anywhere else, and it's the closest thing I have to a "home town". But, I didn't really appreciate just how remarkable a city it is until I started (or rather continued, but as an adult) moving and travelling internationally. There are several other great "livable" cities out there--Melbourne, San Diego, and Copenhagen stand out for me--and even more "great cities" that aren't very livable (unless you're independently wealthy). And then there's Buffalo, which doesn't rank in either category. ;-) Agree that Buffalo is and always will be a B list city. It has chicken wings, 3 alarm blazes in Tonawanda but not much else other than a hollowed out core and ex-urbia as far as one can see. Detroit is very similar, a testament to the destruction that single occupant car society can create. |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by abner
(Post 12854122)
Buffalo was never more than a relatively successful regional center even in its heyday, and has been in decline since 1950. In contrast, Toronto has been the largest city in English Canada since Confederation in 1867, and after a long rivalry with Montreal, decisively eclipsed that city in the early 1980s as a financial and population center. The breadth and depth of financial, cultural, and educational opportunities hasn't been comparable between Toronto and Buffalo for generations. Torontonians mostly visit Buffalo to shop at the outlet malls, when the exchange rates are good.
From an Australian perspective--for carcajou's benefit--describing Toronto as "Buffalo on steroids" is like describing Melbourne as "Geelong on steroids". And yes, I am biased. I've moved around a lot over the decades, both while growing up and later while chasing professional opportunities, but I've spent more time in Toronto than anywhere else, and it's the closest thing I have to a "home town". But, I didn't really appreciate just how remarkable a city it is until I started (or rather continued, but as an adult) moving and travelling internationally. There are several other great "livable" cities out there--Melbourne, San Diego, and Copenhagen stand out for me--and even more "great cities" that aren't very livable (unless you're independently wealthy). And then there's Buffalo, which doesn't rank in either category. ;-) carcajou has a dated view, I think. It's not Hogtown now, the slaughterhouse isn't in High Park anymore. In Toronto bars open on Sundays and one can have a drink without buying a meal. Alcohol for consumption at home is limited in choice and available only from the government but one can see the product before buying it; there's no more passing of the wrapped package through a slot. I'd still say Toronto is a prissy place but it's no longer the case that one can go to Buffalo and be startled how much more progressive it is. |
Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by Partially discharged
(Post 12854151)
Drove past homes of friends from that era wondering who lived there. These houses now cost about 1.1 million on average which I find hard to justify.
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Re: Top Reasons to Move (and Not Move) to Canada
Originally Posted by Partially discharged
(Post 12854151)
Agree that Buffalo is and always will be a B list city. It has chicken wings, 3 alarm blazes in Tonawanda...
For years, my father's standard euphemism for having a post-dinner nap in front of the tele was that he was "off to watch the houses burning in Buffalo". |
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