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agr May 30th 2009 2:33 am

Too many nurses in Alberta
 
Hard to believe, but the Government of Alberta now believes there is a surplus of nurses in Alberta, and that there will be hardly any need to recruit foreign-trained nurses. See news story in the Edmonton Journal today.

This would explain why all the nursing jobs disappeared from the Capital Health Region website last week.

If you are currently being recruited to nurse in AB, you might want to make some enquiries.

DESERTFOX May 30th 2009 4:21 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by agr (Post 7618278)
Hard to believe, but the Government of Alberta now believes there is a surplus of nurses in Alberta, and that there will be hardly any need to recruit foreign-trained nurses. See news story in the Edmonton Journal today.

This would explain why all the nursing jobs disappeared from the Capital Health Region website last week.

If you are currently being recruited to nurse in AB, you might want to make some enquiries.

Oh dear:( What's going to happen to Alberta bound nurses then?:ohmy:

phat-dave May 30th 2009 11:19 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by DESERTFOX (Post 7618506)
Oh dear:( What's going to happen to Alberta bound nurses then?:ohmy:

Too many nurses, is there such a thing?

Good heavens, if Canada doesn't want them then send them to Australia. We have chipmunks over here working in our hospitals because of the mass skill shortages :( Don't even get me started on the lack of Doctors!!

macadian May 30th 2009 11:48 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by phat-dave (Post 7619014)
Too many nurses, is there such a thing?

Good heavens, if Canada doesn't want them then send them to Australia. We have chipmunks over here working in our hospitals because of the mass skill shortages :( Don't even get me started on the lack of Doctors!!

I think it may have more do do with the fact that they CAN use more Nurses, they just don't want to pay them...hence the announcement....:blink:

Piff Poff May 30th 2009 1:10 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
There were noises on the radio a couple of weeks ago about some of the smaller hospitals being closed - not sure how true the report is. Hasn't all the health regions changed to just one? Alberta Health???

Bainesy36 May 30th 2009 1:35 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
I can only speak for the two hospital I have been in touch with, but there is a current ban on all external applicants, be them from Alberta or not. Unless you are currently already working in the hospital, there is little to no chance of getting a permanent/full time position. I am currently waiting to hear if they will take me on a casual basis or its off to IKEA to hand in my application form!

triumphguy May 30th 2009 1:59 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
The was a report on CBC radio a couple of weeks ago that Canada is short 60,000 nurses.

Alberta_Rose May 30th 2009 5:02 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by Bainesy36 (Post 7619153)
I can only speak for the two hospital I have been in touch with, but there is a current ban on all external applicants, be them from Alberta or not. Unless you are currently already working in the hospital, there is little to no chance of getting a permanent/full time position. I am currently waiting to hear if they will take me on a casual basis or its off to IKEA to hand in my application form!

We can't even hire casual staff unless they are already on the books .... if that sounds a little odd, I (for instance), hope to be offered casual work when my temporary contract finishes next month. I had hoped to be offered one of two permanent postions, but as you say, there is an almost total freeze on right now. My managers say they are going to do all that they can to hang on to me, but I have already started looking out for alternatives.....

As to a surplus, not sure what the figures are for nurses, but we are 20% below fully staffed as physios..... the whole thing's becoming scary as well as ridiculous! :thumbdown:


One BIG thing is that we are expecting an announcement next week from the new head, Dr S.D., that he wants to abandon site and departmental management, and go for program management. The first big effect of this will be that ALL our physio managers are likely to lose their jobs as programs are most likely to be managed by current nursing managers.
All other hirings etc are supposed to be "budget neutral" hence no external hirings!

Butch Cassidy May 30th 2009 5:36 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by Bainesy36 (Post 7619153)
I can only speak for the two hospital I have been in touch with, but there is a current ban on all external applicants, be them from Alberta or not. Unless you are currently already working in the hospital, there is little to no chance of getting a permanent/full time position. I am currently waiting to hear if they will take me on a casual basis or its off to IKEA to hand in my application form!

OK, whats your background? Can you manage till July when there may be something? Looking for 9-5 work? PM me and I may be able to help

ExcitedBrit May 30th 2009 6:08 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
yeah this is really indeed hard to beleive! unheard of! BTW, in Montreal there is still room. I would imagine one would need to be fluent/functional in french though.



Originally Posted by agr (Post 7618278)
Hard to believe, but the Government of Alberta now believes there is a surplus of nurses in Alberta, and that there will be hardly any need to recruit foreign-trained nurses. See news story in the Edmonton Journal today.

This would explain why all the nursing jobs disappeared from the Capital Health Region website last week.

If you are currently being recruited to nurse in AB, you might want to make some enquiries.


Alberta_Rose May 31st 2009 4:20 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
I just checked the jobs available through Alberta Health Services .... there are a total of Eight (8!) jobs advertised for the whole of Alberta .... when you consider that at any one time the jobs in Foothills Medical Centre, Calgary, alone are in three figures normally. :blink:

boxerdog03 Jun 1st 2009 1:25 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by Morwenna (Post 7621853)
I just checked the jobs available through Alberta Health Services .... there are a total of Eight (8!) jobs advertised for the whole of Alberta .... when you consider that at any one time the jobs in Foothills Medical Centre, Calgary, alone are in three figures normally. :blink:

We was informed at our staff meeting that all job applications have to be agreed and signed off at VP level, prob why there are only 8 positions now. I had an interview for a permanent position with the team I'm at now and I have to wait until the post has been signed off until I hear if I got the job.

Alberta_Rose Jun 1st 2009 2:45 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by boxerdog03 (Post 7623305)
We was informed at our staff meeting that all job applications have to be agreed and signed off at VP level.

That's right, and did they also tell you that out of over one thousand posts that have been sent up for approval, only one has returned? :blink:

Bainesy36 Jun 2nd 2009 3:34 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
Oh well, at least at IKEA I'll hopefully get a discount that will help with the new house. (although with no job the rent might be interesting!!!) Better get filling in my application form!!!

PaulandDawn Jun 2nd 2009 7:30 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
I wondered where all the jobs disapeared to! One day there was tons of psychology and mental health clinican jobs to sift through, the the next there was none! Looks like I'll be working in Tim Hortons then! My mum will be pleased that her money to put me through my masters went to good use! :unsure:

Purley Jun 3rd 2009 1:05 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
If anyone is interested in moving to Regina - there are jobs in just about every medical field:

http://www.rqhealth.ca/diy_jobs/view.cgi?cmd=roots

agr Jun 5th 2009 4:40 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by PaulandDawn (Post 7628923)
I wondered where all the jobs disapeared to! One day there was tons of psychology and mental health clinican jobs to sift through, the the next there was none! Looks like I'll be working in Tim Hortons then! My mum will be pleased that her money to put me through my masters went to good use! :unsure:

.....my wife sent her resume to a medical clinic last week that were asking for a part-time RN and has been called for an interview. She has permission from CARNA to work as a grad nurse while working towards her CRNE. Does anyone know what rate of pay she should be aiming for as we presume medical clinics can offer what they want.

RN1 Jun 5th 2009 11:39 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
Apparently the jobs are about to be re-posted again soon - most were approved by "Duck-it" it seems! Oh, & there is now NOT a surplus of nurses - that was a figment of some politicians imagination I guess! Ha ha ha!

As a Grad nurse wages will be somewhere from $25-35 per hr depending on your number of years experience - you can check wages out using the UNA collective agreement - I'm sure there's an on-line copy via their website. I think most clinics do follow the UNA wages.

Flossie and Jim Jun 5th 2009 12:48 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
Some more recent nursing-related newspaper rumours here:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Health/...550/story.html

Make of it what you will, although there are big changes afoot within the new Alberta Health Services body.....perhaps they are just trying to get all their ducks in a row with the new guy.....I'm currently temping in a section that has been newly merged into this superboard. All the admin jobs are disappearing and being left to temps because they haven't got their act together transferring staff and there are restructures being made left, right and centre. Its a nightmare for me as I have to keep the bl**dy telephone list up to date!!! I can't even order a pack of pens without clearance from those on high these days <sigh>!

agr Jun 5th 2009 2:30 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by RN1 (Post 7638715)
Apparently the jobs are about to be re-posted again soon - most were approved by "Duck-it" it seems! Oh, & there is now NOT a surplus of nurses - that was a figment of some politicians imagination I guess! Ha ha ha!

As a Grad nurse wages will be somewhere from $25-35 per hr depending on your number of years experience - you can check wages out using the UNA collective agreement - I'm sure there's an on-line copy via their website. I think most clinics do follow the UNA wages.

Thanks RN1. Found the hourly rates at http://www.una.ab.ca/collectiveagree...rsingsalaries/.

A few jobs are starting to be advertised again, but I think they're only open to internal candidates.

RN1 Jun 5th 2009 3:00 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by agr (Post 7638992)
Thanks RN1. Found the hourly rates at http://www.una.ab.ca/collectiveagree...rsingsalaries/.

A few jobs are starting to be advertised again, but I think they're only open to internal candidates.

You're welcome.

I suspect it won't be too long befiore things are on the up again - it usually goes in cycles!!

lisap27 Jun 10th 2009 8:22 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
what is the job situation for Phlebotomists in canada? do the nurses do that job aswell?

just wondering as that is what i do in the uk.. and were moving over to lethbridge in next few months.. partner is already working there!

thanks

lisa x x :D

Steve_P Jun 10th 2009 12:05 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by lisap27 (Post 7653250)
what is the job situation for Phlebotomists in canada? do the nurses do that job aswell?

just wondering as that is what i do in the uk.. and were moving over to lethbridge in next few months.. partner is already working there!

thanks

lisa x x :D

I know of at least one Phlebotomist at the Foothills in Calgary but I'm not sure if all those who come around and take blood in the hospital are Phlebotomists.

Any time I have spent time as an in-patient nurses have not taken blood.

scrubbedexpat091 Jun 10th 2009 9:19 pm

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by lisap27 (Post 7653250)
what is the job situation for Phlebotomists in canada? do the nurses do that job aswell?

just wondering as that is what i do in the uk.. and were moving over to lethbridge in next few months.. partner is already working there!

thanks

lisa x x :D

Here in BC they are called Medical. Lab Assistants, probably a similiar name in Alberta. The pay isn't horrible from my research for BC, but one wont get rich doing it.

boxerdog03 Jun 11th 2009 2:07 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 
Well VP has been very busy approving jobs. I had news on Tues that the post I applied for has been approved so I now have a permanent position with AHS instead of the temp ones since I landed here.

Getting There Jun 11th 2009 2:46 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by boxerdog03 (Post 7656053)
Well VP has been very busy approving jobs. I had news on Tues that the post I applied for has been approved so I now have a permanent position with AHS instead of the temp ones since I landed here.

Congratulations. Really pleased for you. :)

Eamonn & Janet.

Steve_P Jun 11th 2009 3:22 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by boxerdog03 (Post 7656053)
Well VP has been very busy approving jobs. I had news on Tues that the post I applied for has been approved so I now have a permanent position with AHS instead of the temp ones since I landed here.

Well done you. :thumbsup:

terese677 Jun 11th 2009 5:43 am

Re: Too many nurses in Alberta
 

Originally Posted by boxerdog03 (Post 7656053)
Well VP has been very busy approving jobs. I had news on Tues that the post I applied for has been approved so I now have a permanent position with AHS instead of the temp ones since I landed here.

congratulations


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