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cheeky_monkey Jun 30th 2007 9:32 pm

Throwing in the towel
 
Finally reach the end of my teather with the whole immigration process...frustrated with the lack of communication from chc..i seemed to be the only one left who sent back info in Jan 07 who hasnt heard back from chc..despite numerous emails etc about my case..i have decided that chc are just plain rude and disorganised why bother...i am not waiting on Canada any longer...i have just accepted a more senior position and changed jobs.
If had chc had been honest when i first applied re waiting times..and told me it could be in excess of 30 mnths..and not 12-18 months i was assured at epsom i wouldnt have bothered applying.
When we got a 90 day letter back in Dec..we started planning where to live went out 2 various places etc..jobs..taking the kids out of school...but here we are no further forward than we were 7 months ago!..and no prospect of us even being able 2 move b4 2008..so feel time to take back control of my life..and make a go of it in the uk.

Paratrooper Jul 1st 2007 12:30 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 
Sorry to hear about your frustrations, but to be honest, if changing your job to a new position causes you "throw in the towel", and stay in the UK, then you seem to have lost sight to what Canada has to offer! People do not emmigrate to Canada for better jobs, but for a better standard of living, of which the UK could never match.

Just be patient like everybody else.

scotland29 Jul 1st 2007 6:51 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 4992794)
Finally reach the end of my teather with the whole immigration process...frustrated with the lack of communication from chc..i seemed to be the only one left who sent back info in Jan 07 who hasnt heard back from chc..despite numerous emails etc about my case..i have decided that chc are just plain rude and disorganised why bother...i am not waiting on Canada any longer...i have just accepted a more senior position and changed jobs.
If had chc had been honest when i first applied re waiting times..and told me it could be in excess of 30 mnths..and not 12-18 months i was assured at epsom i wouldnt have bothered applying.
When we got a 90 day letter back in Dec..we started planning where to live went out 2 various places etc..jobs..taking the kids out of school...but here we are no further forward than we were 7 months ago!..and no prospect of us even being able 2 move b4 2008..so feel time to take back control of my life..and make a go of it in the uk.


Dont give up mate.
everyone on here are in the same boat generally. Only circumstances vary from application to application. It would seem you are nearly there just dig in. It will be worth it. I understand how you may feel, communication from chc is very very poor but they do treat everybody the same.
Regards:)

Karen1 Jul 1st 2007 7:15 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 
Hi

You are not alone in this frustrating process - see timeline. Just because we get fed up and frustrated by the whole process doesn't mean we don't want to go - lack of communication by CHC causes the fruatrations you, I and a good many others experience. :thumbdown:

I few weeks ago I felt just like you and to an extent I still do, however, I have just found out my dad has cancer (he's only 69) so this is occupying my mind at the moment. :(

You will hear from them very soon I'm sure - just be patient for a little longer. Don't put your life on hold, you are right to accept a better job whilst you wait, the experience will help when you finally get to Canada.

There does seem to be some unfairness with the current system that CHC operates. Some applicants report of receiving emails and phones calls directly from their case officer, whilst others like you and I are not afforded such luxury despite them having all the contact details.

I sincerely hope you get your medical requests soon so you can start your new life in Canada.

I'll keep everything crossed for you. :thumbsup:

Karen

Judy in Calgary Jul 1st 2007 7:16 am

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All the best, cheeky_monkey, whatever you decide. :thumbup:

JAJ Jul 1st 2007 7:17 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by Paratrooper (Post 4993496)
People do not emmigrate to Canada for better jobs, but for a better standard of living, of which the UK could never match.

It is debatable whether Canada offers a better standard of living than the United Kingdom. It did in the 1970s, but things were different then.

sheryl Jul 1st 2007 8:39 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by JAJ (Post 4995006)
It is debatable whether Canada offers a better standard of living than the United Kingdom. It did in the 1970s, but things were different then.

Hi Cheeky_monkey
It's a painful experience we know! We perhaps are in a different frame of mind to you as we feel it's our last chance as I am in my 40's (shush don't tell every one!) and hubby is a tad older so we are hanging on in! I am very pleased that you have got a better job which hopefully will enable you to enjoy your life without moving - so well done you! It's hard when you make life changing decissions so once made it can be hard to know if it was the right choice - but I am a big believer in gut instincts and so you probably have made the right choice at this point in your life - who knows what may crop up in the future? so good look mate! :thumbup:

Steve_P Jul 1st 2007 9:02 am

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Originally Posted by JAJ (Post 4995006)
It is debatable whether Canada offers a better standard of living than the United Kingdom. It did in the 1970s, but things were different then.

... and living in Australia you can tell this how?:confused:

stepnek Jul 1st 2007 9:11 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 4995290)
... and living in Australia you can tell this how?:confused:

It's all relative isn't it. But it is far too a generalised comment to say that Canada offers a better standard of living. It may well do for some depending on all the circumstances.

Steve_P Jul 1st 2007 9:28 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by stepnek (Post 4995315)
It's all relative isn't it. But it is far too a generalised comment to say that Canada offers a better standard of living. It may well do for some depending on all the circumstances.

Conversely it's far too generalised to say it doesn't. ;)

I honestly don't know if Canada does or doesn't offer a better standard of living but I've lived here for 44 years so can't really compare it to the UK.
The UK I remember doesn't exist any more. :eek:

I can only add that with only a high school education I believe I did very well in Canada. Would I have done as well in England I don't know but I don't think so.

steve666 Jul 1st 2007 9:30 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 4995290)
... and living in Australia you can tell this how?:confused:

I was going to answer in my own way, but you give it to him steve... :frown:

dingbat Jul 1st 2007 10:08 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by Paratrooper (Post 4993496)
Sorry to hear about your frustrations, but to be honest, if changing your job to a new position causes you "throw in the towel", and stay in the UK, then you seem to have lost sight to what Canada has to offer! People do not emmigrate to Canada for better jobs, but for a better standard of living, of which the UK could never match.

Just be patient like everybody else.

:confused::confused: Not in my twelve years of experience of living in Canada with regular trips to Europe......it is different way of life maybe, but the UK and Europe has way more to offer these days in terms of education, employment and travel opportunities. Each to their own, however.

dingbat Jul 1st 2007 10:19 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 4995356)
Conversely it's far too generalised to say it doesn't. ;)

I honestly don't know if Canada does or doesn't offer a better standard of living but I've lived here for 44 years so can't really compare it to the UK.
The UK I remember doesn't exist any more. :eek:

I can only add that with only a high school education I believe I did very well in Canada. Would I have done as well in England I don't know but I don't think so.

Steve, you are/were an air traffic controller...am I right? These days, to do that job, you need a lot more than a high school education.

http://atsrecruitment.navcanada.ca/d...presets=lang=0

Minimum entrance requirement for an ATC is an undergrad degree, and preferably a North American one, I checked a while back for a friend who wanted to move over from Sweden.

You can still earn a reasonable living in the UK without a degree. I cannot say the same for here, even Oprah Winfrey, (who would usually send me running from a room for my ear muffs), admitted this past Friday that the North American job market demands a degree for everything these days. You are otherwise often consigned to minimum wage jobs and a life on the poverty line, especially if you are female with children. Not much fun when you are also a foreigner. Things have changed dramatically in the last ten years, so much so that the disparity that certainly did exist in the seventies and eighties between achievable standards of living has reversed. In many cases, I think you are now better off in the UK. If I had my time again, I would have just travelled a lot more and bought a holiday home here!

R I C H Jul 1st 2007 10:25 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by dingbat (Post 4995548)
You can still earn a reasonable living in the UK without a degree. I cannot say the same for here, even Oprah Winfrey, (who would usually send me running from a room for my ear muffs), admitted this past Friday that the North American job market demands a degree for everything these days. You are otherwise often consigned to minimum wage jobs and a life on the poverty line, especially if you are female with children.

Whilst I can broadly understand the sentiment, you've consigned those who have trades skills, that are self-employed or entrepreneurial to earning minimum wage? Too broad a brush stroke I think.

Kittykerr Jul 1st 2007 10:29 am

Re: Throwing in the towel
 

Originally Posted by dingbat (Post 4995548)
Steve, you are/were an air traffic controller...am I right? These days, to do that job, you need a lot more than a high school education.

http://atsrecruitment.navcanada.ca/d...presets=lang=0

Minimum entrance requirement for an ATC is an undergrad degree, and preferably a North American one, I checked a while back for a friend who wanted to move over from Sweden.

You can still earn a reasonable living in the UK without a degree. I cannot say the same for here, even Oprah Winfrey, (who would usually send me running from a room for my ear muffs), admitted this past Friday that the North American job market demands a degree for everything these days. You are otherwise often consigned to minimum wage jobs and a life on the poverty line, especially if you are female with children. Not much fun when you are also a foreigner. Things have changed dramatically in the last ten years, so much so that the disparity that certainly did exist in the seventies and eighties between achievable standards of living has reversed. In many cases, I think you are now better off in the UK. If I had my time again, I would have just travelled a lot more and bought a holiday home here!

disagree with that. not one person i know in canada who came from the UK has a degree. all earn considerably more. and have a much higher standard of living.
im going there without a degree, as is my wife, and both will get a good pay rise.
experience in doing a job seems much more important i have found.


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